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If the reports below are

If the reports below are true, when will Obama's actions begin to square with his rhetoric? In his book, THE CASE AGAINST BARRACK OBAMA http://www.ebook-search-queen.com/ebook/THE/THE+CASE+AGAINST+BARRACK+OBA... , David Freddoso reports that Obama demonstrated his commitment to old-style politics by his repeated endorsements of Chicago's machine politicians, and refused to support reformers from both parties in the 2006 election who were committed to ending corruption in Chicago's Cook County government.

With all the money the Feds

With all the money the Feds are getting from all us taxpayers, who is going to help us when we need help? The Bush people will print more money, Billions upon Billions,upon Billions of dollars so that these compaines won't go under. Let see the banks get the money from the Feds who all ready took back the homes why because the people couldn't make the loan payments, these people are now homeless, boy what a deal. Why can't the government help these people who are flat broke instead of these compaines. Wall Street is in a mess, compaines going out of business, people losing thier homes, jobs, savings. and Mccain thinks everything is great? people we need someone who can get this once great nation get back on its feet.

Okay, we may have figured

Okay, we may have figured out the spamming commenter issue. Thanks for suffering through all those annoying links! (Hope we've seen the last of them.)

-Mark

We've got the spammers on

We've got the spammers on the run. Hope we'll be back to our regular political/cartoon discussions now!

Thanks for your patience,

-Mark

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Looks like sohbet is once

Looks like sohbet is once again on the offensive. :(
Come on, Mr. Fiore! ;) (Although, I realize it's possible you're still weeping on your pillow over your $2,000.00 share of the Wall Street bailout.)

I have an economist friend in the states that has been following this whole issue closely. He's leaving. Packing up and moving to Italy. He raised an interesting point: if you burrow deep enough into the books, the US has accumulated more debt in the past two years than it has in the previous 100.

The Wall Street bailout will possibly keep the markets steady for one week or two, and then the dominos will start to fall again and the market will be in free-fall.

Another learned friend of mine (albeit a bit conspiracy-theory-headed) claims with relative certainty that Bush will declare a state of emergency sometime between Oct. 1 when Congress is dissolved and the November election. Bush will use the opportunity to extend his executive power 'for the good of not only our nation, but all the nations of the world'. Legally, Congress is powerless to stop him after Oct. 1. I've always been markedly sceptical of the sites, sources, theories, etc. my pal follows, but his willingness to commit to such a fantastic, improbable, short-term and specific theory caught my attention.

The fact that the US has now smashed the $11 trillion debt mark and the economy is in virtual free-fall... well.

Here's hoping that the stop-gap measures will buy some time, but there's a reason the SEC put a ban on short trading: you won't find an economist anywhere that believes the Fed bailout will keep the house of cards up for long.

Good luck to all.

Regards,

COTO

Hi COTO, Since you kindly

Hi COTO,

Since you kindly offered your help on the spamming commenter issue, I thought I'd let you know what was going on.

Basically, "pre-authenticated" users were allowed to skip the Captcha for some reason. Now, they're forced to go through the fun just like anonymous users. Hopefully, this will put a stop to the evil spammer human-bots.

Thanks again,

-MF

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The evil spammer-bots march

The evil spammer-bots march on, it would seem. 'Sohbet' isn't an acronym for 'The S.O.B.' for nothing. :P

Incidentally, would my account fall into the category of "pre-authenticated user"? I ask because I was allowed to post this comment without the CAPTCHA validation. Also, insofar as I know, most of the bot's comments are posted anonymously. The spammer is posting at intervals that suggest he's willing to fill out the CAPTCHA himself, or, as I suspect, he's got a 'factory' to do it for him. These guys really seem to be plumbing the depths of human nature.

I realize you're interested in making cartoons and not fighting spammers 24/7. If it would be at all helpful: if you could identify the specific code module in your servlet that handles the parsing of the POSTdata (i.e. the module that currently performs the paragraph and auto-link, etc.) and sent this module to me, I could write two modified versions: one that prevents links from being used in Google link-spamming, and one that safely 'textifies' hyperlinks, even if they're explicitly defined. You would of course need to recompile the code when it was returned to you.

I'm an accomplished programmer and I can handle any language the module may be written in. This would be a free service for all the good laughs I've gotten out of your cartoons. ;)

Obviously, I understand if you have other plans, aren't interested, etc., etc. It is just an option to consider in the event that the other options seem unpalatable, time-consuming, etc.

If you're interested, just e-mail me at SYONIDV AT HOTMAIL DOT COM. Either way, I wish you the best in finally snuffing out the evil spammer-bots. :)

Heaven knows, if there's a time when we need editorialists warning Americans about vile politics and not fighting spammer-bots, it's now.

Regards,

COTO

There was a cartoon at the

There was a cartoon at the WAshington Post today that says it all:

http://www.uclick.com/client/wpc/sc/

great animation, Mark.
not just because it illustrates McCain's lack of preparedness for High Office, but because of the true seriousness of the situation. Does anybody remember when we had a SURPLUS and how storng the dollar was then...??
if you want a reason to throw the current "crew" in gaol, the state of the economy and all of the skimming going on, while they're talking ANOTHER bailout, is the best that I can offer.

Tim

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Maybe Mrs. Bubbles will draw

Maybe Mrs. Bubbles will draw on her experience in the PTA to solve the economic crisis. She will hold a nationwide bake sale.

-Snuppy

Maybe community organizer

Maybe community organizer Barack Hussein will have a magazine drive and go door to door?

-Z-

Unfortunately, I think that

Unfortunately, I think that it's a little dishonest to attack McCain on this one, as basically, everybody in the U.S. is guilty of the same wishful thinking.
Why am I saying this ?
Who's funding your retirement package ?
How many of you have mutual funds ?
The problem is market capitalism, duh, it's not the Republican Party.
Market capitalism is basically a parasite that feeds on a real economy, like a killer fig plant that manages to choke its host to death.
Attention : when I criticize market capitalism, that doesn't mean I am a socialist...
The stock market is just a REALLY BAD IDEA.
It pushes money into ever more virtual realms, and really, the economy is already virtual enough without adding on the stock market and its cortege.

This would work better if

This would work better if McCain's comments ran in the other direction ... oldest to newest, thus showing how he's not understanding anything while the place falls down around his ears.

I need to be educated on

I need to be educated on economics....
"I can see Russia from my house" says Tina Fey on SNL while mocking Alaska Governor Palin.

It sounds like Bush just

It sounds like Bush just told America this morning that it's patriotic to pay more taxes to bail out the financial mess he and his super-rich cronies created.

So...should we let the same voting demographic who elected Bush strong arm us into electing McPain? Yes, one wonders what's going on in some American's brains when they vote against their own best interests.

Ilove this cartoon. McCain

Ilove this cartoon. McCain doesn't know nothing about this economy period. Wall Street is a mess, the housing for most people is out of their reach, and McCain thinks everything is great. Hey McCain open your eyes many can't make the house payment,thier losing thier jobs as more and more companies go over seas, more and more people are living off thier credit cards and are having a hard time paying that off. And In your world everything is rosie the nations is strong and people are living the American dream of going broke and homeless. Wakeup McCain what are going to do if you get the white house say ''Oh everything is just great no need to worry'' McCain I hope you lose period

And what do you think will

And what do you think will happen when Obama raises taxes on the "rich" to bring the economy "back into balance"? Taxes go up, corporations go over seas or lay off more people which just add to the economic trouble. In other words higher unemployment, higher inflation, less jobs, etc...

I'm not sure McCain is the answer, but I am sure the answer isn't Obama...

"And what do you think will

"And what do you think will happen when Obama raises taxes on the "rich" to bring the economy "back into balance"?"

It will go back into balance. As it did during Clinton's administration.

Duh.

Oh how I wish I could be

Oh how I wish I could be naive enough to believe this. My life would be so much easier...

It would be better if you

It would be better if you *weren't* naive enough to believe as you do. You see, the economy has always done better under liberals than under conservatives.

Of course, I fully expect to see people like you kicking and screaming against being forced to admit this, when things *do* improve under President Obama. After all, studies show that conservatives' false beliefs merely get reinforced when you are presented with proof that you are wrong.

The only really good

The only really good solution to this is to have more state-control over the market, to make sure the market isn´t misused but kept in check.

For this, a strong economic state with many stocks in different companies is required, combined with larger taxes. This is lacking in U.S today.

Stabilization and welfare works best if state indirectly uses its influence over the market.

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Why is everybody getting in

Why is everybody getting in a tizzy about some little banks?

The solution is so obvious, you dummies. I think from now on, whenever any company is about to go bankrupt, the government should give them money. That way, nobody will ever go bankrupt!

And somebody told me once that the government might not have enough money, but 'duh!' people: who do you think makes the money? The US can make as much money as they want with their big money printing machines. They should also print out enough so that there are no more poor people, and everybody can live in a mansion.

So all those Wall Street banks that need maybe a few hundred or a few thousand dollars can just ask for it (politely, of course), and then nobody will ever go bankrupt again and everything will be OK.

If you don't believe me, look at the post down a few. The government gave a company called AIG $85B (which means '85 boxes of dollars') and now AIG is A-OK! Ha. Ha. Get it? ;)
But really, they are A-OK.

So good old fashioned smarts solved the problem again!

And that's why John McCain's and Barack Obama's financial plans make so much sense to me.

- COTO

Ehhh, ever heard of

Ehhh, ever heard of inflation?

The solution is very obvious, thats for sure. Either you don´t give any more money to companies and let the rich people pay for their own mistakes OR you nationalize all banks, making the state richer and make sure these things never ever happen again

If interested in economics, read Keynes

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You seem to be mistaking me

You seem to be mistaking me for somebody who isn't one of the last-minute swing-state idjit voters that inevitably decide the outcome of every US federal election.

Also, inflation is a myth.

And 'Keynes' is spelled funny.

What the hell kind of

What the hell kind of statement is: inflation is a myth. You say some stupid -------, but really? Inflation is a myth, how can you think that? That is the most ridiculous thing I have heard in recent memory. Look at how much things cost ten years ago and look at them now. Just do that and try to say that again.

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That was me btw, I thought I

That was me btw, I thought I was logged but obviously not. Still that just ridiculous, no inflation? Tell me what fact denying website you got that from.
Casey?

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You'll find all the

You'll find all the information you need at

www.itscalledsatire.com

Click on the link for section 'Painfully Obvious Satire' at the right side of the menu.

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Hmmm, looks like that link

Hmmm, looks like that link doesn't work. Are you sure that's the site?

-Mark

"Also, inflation is a

"Also, inflation is a myth."

tell that to wall-street

I love it mark

I love it mark

I loved it mark

I loved it mark

Conservatives call anykind

Conservatives call anykind of regulation of business "Communism." Yet it seems that everytime you let business men make money anyway they want, these kinds of disasters strike.

Obama was against all the de-regulation that caused all of this.

OBAMA 08'

Actually its called

Actually its called "socialism" and its not any kind of regulation, its when business is regulated in such a way as to make bad decisions or when a company is taxed so badly that the incentive to make money is gone.

I already work 3 days a week for free. How many more would you like me to work so that others don't have to work and to keep stupid companies from going bankrupt?

When will the insanity end? Government is the problem not the solution

NOObama 08' my vote for McCain isn’t for him but against Obama…

Actually, it's called

Actually, it's called "deregulation gone wild". The greatest economic myth is that "the" market works perfectly (as if all markets are the same) and that rules shaping the market are necessarily bad.

Markets have all kinds of imperfections. Banks are subject to runs, so we have federal deposit insurance. Investment banks are subject to having their credit lines yanked for similar reasons, but we never really worried about that before everyone owned mortgage-backed securities and insurance on them. Too bad the Glass-Steagall Act (however imperfect it may have been) was nuked by Gramm and Co. in the name of the free market.

And thanks to the free market, we can now either have a massive financial crisis or the bunch of ad hoc crap that we just made up over the last few months (and mostly this week) rather than well thought out rules to keep these kinds of problems from cropping up in the first place.

As far as taxes go, the problem with your theory is that the only reason corporations stay in the US and hire Americans is that the cost of our labor is cheap relative to our productivity. Well, that's one reason. There are other business reasons too... being close to your markets and factors of production, etc. Another reason is that the US is a safe, well kept place to do business; to live and enjoy life, and to raise a family. That's kind of hard to do that with freeways falling into rivers, a FEMA that can't find a hurricane on national tv a trillion dollar war, and markets in turmoil. At the end of the day, we have to pay a bit to run this country, and those who benefit most have gotten off cheap over the last eight years at the expense of the rest of us.

We may have to agree to

We may have to agree to disagree then.

For example yes some of our problems are due to "unethical business practice" but you fail to acknowledge that the fair housing act forced banks to make risky loans as to not discriminate. If you are forced to do business you know is risky it only makes sense that you’re going to try and maximize your return for as long as that pony is going to ride because at some point the house of cards WILL fall.

Of course markets have imperfections, its run my people and people are imperfect. Part of the free market system is allowing business to fail and no amount of regulation will stop that from happening. It wasn’t FDR’s “new deal” that got us out of the Great Depression, it was WWII. It wasn’t some new regulation that reversed the recession after 9/11, it was tax breaks. And this time raising taxes and new government give a way’s will save the economy either.

If we do away with the free market concepts, what do we have to base our economy off of? The Communist or socialist system? We proved through the cold war that the communist system is not superior if anything its inferior or else China wouldn't be changing, France wouldn't be near bankrupt, as well as Spain. Personally I like being able to work harder and make more money. If I couldn’t make more by working harder, why bother taking the risks or putting out the effort?

As far as taxes you inferred something that’s not quite correct. What I was referring to was blue collar work. In the information age, as this board demonstrates, we can talk in pretty much real time anywhere in the world. With that kind of power a CEO, upper level management, etc. could live anywhere in the US, have goods produced in China, for example, and easily hire an American manager to run it (with per diem) while make weekly trips to check on things and still come out ahead in the money saved not only in wages but in payroll taxes as well. Let’s take it a step further, they could officially relocate the head quarters to any country in the world and run it from the comfort of their own home in “Any City USA”.

And so again my "tax comment" is valid, how many days a week am I suppose to work for free before you and others like you are satisfied? Keep in mind I'm not a "rich CEO" that’s going to get a bail out if my business fails. Keep in mind you didn't pull the hundreds of thousands of dollars in loans to open up my business, keep in mind you didn't go to school for 8 years to get the degree and certifications to do my job (nor did the tax payers pay for it). Keep in mind you don’t have to work the long hours to make my business work. All the risk, work, and responsibility are mine so how much of my work should you benefit from before you’re satisfied?

I can't speak for the other

I can't speak for the other guy, but I'm not going to agree to disagree with this stuff, because everything you say is at least wildly inaccurate, and more often than not factually wrong.

For one thing, the fair housing act does not force banks to extend mortgages to people who can't afford them. It simply requires banks to be unbiased about factors that have nothing to do with ability to pay, such as ethnicity.

For another, FDR's new deal may not have ended the depression, but it *did* strongly stabilize the economy to make another one unlikely afterward. The economy didn't start sliding until the government began undercutting New Deal regulations, which was started in earnest by Reagan.

For yet another, the recession after 9/11 never ended. Employment, wages, and inflation remained stagnant at best, and generally worsened. The tax breaks you are cheer leading did nothing about any of that.

And on and on and on. So no, no agreeing to disagree. Our disagreement isn't based on differing opinions, it is based on the fact that you are wrong about everything.

As an economist, I sincerely

As an economist, I sincerely loved this one.

From the beginning, McCain's budget fairy tale of paying for the war and tax breaks with earmarks made Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny look plausible by comparison. My only question is whether he truly believes his own hype or if he knows what someone running the show must...

And now, with this massive crisis of uncertainty (no one knows who's holding all the bad debt, nor how much bad debt there is; we are all certain however that we don't want to be holding the bag if everyone starts running for the financial market exit...) and each day of reckoning worse than the last, with the Fed jumping in to bail out AIG to the tune of $85B, with markets close to free fall, we've got John McCain running around the country quoting Herbert Hoover: "The fundamental business of the country … is on a sound and prosperous basis" (10/30/29).

McCain and his crew have no real idea on how to deal with this situation. Let's wait a year _after_ electing you to see what a commission comes up with??

If you go back to their budget, McCain et al's ideas are analogous to trying to solve the world energy crisis by making better use of mud and putting a power outlet in every home. Oh, and about health insurance: here's a tax break and ignorance of adverse selection and moral hazard. Good luck finding an affordable policy.

"Wishful thinking" is an understatement. "Out of touch" doesn't convey the gravity of McCain and Palin's abject failure to understand one of the most serious economic events in the last hundred years. These people make Marie Antoinette look like a piker.

Obama's campaign should run

Obama's campaign should run this cartoon as part of a national campaign ad.

Great new animation! With

Great new animation! With Wall St. in a topsy-turvy mess, it's good to be forewarned in a satiric manner...about the upcoming "know nothing" presidential candidates on all sides of the political plate!

Let's give McCain a new

Let's give McCain a new nickname on a national scale:

"Let them eat cake McCain"

Awesome political cartoon.

Awesome political cartoon. Funniest one I've seen in a while. Home run!

It's years like this that

It's years like this that I'm thankful I own my home outright and have no debt or major investments. Even so, I'm nervous as heck.

That was a great pirce on a

That was a great pirce on a economy that is really bad. And McCain thinks that everything is roise. Yeah, right people losing thier homes, jobs,the dollar,wall street,and some companies going belly up. Gas prices keep going up, CEO of all the gas compaines manying billions upon billions, and us poor middleclass must suffer while the rich get richer we get poorer.

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I would also feel that the

I would also feel that the economy was sound... if I had a $100M in the bank from my wife's Budweiser empire in Arizona. "Let them eat cake"... I think applies here. Hopefully the same result will occur for McCain - hats, and heads off to McCain.

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I just love the psychedelic

I just love the psychedelic background around McCain's face, along with the birds' chirping and the baby's cooing! There is no better way to show that he and Palin need some touch with reality.

It's a point that has been

It's a point that has been made several times already, but you do a very effective job. ^_^ Personally, I would have put the McCain/Palin quotes from oldest to most recent, rather than the other way around as you did. But still, very effective.

Help Wanted. Qualified

Help Wanted.
Qualified applicant will be as follows:
1 part Lincoln (to bring a divided country back together)
1 part FDR (we need a new deal... now!)
1 part Kennedy (can handle WMD development with iran, pakistan, and n korea like the Cuban missile crisis).
1 part Gen Marshall (we need a Marshal plan for iraq... like 7 years ago)

People who use the speech writers of utterly failed administrations (like mc cain is using gw's speech writer) need not apply.
People that advocate change (but really mean for the worse) need not apply.

Applicants should be sent to 1600 Pennsylvania ave, Wash DC
Deadline is in November.

Good Luck!

- StupidPeopleTrick

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The new animation is up!

The new animation is up! Feeling nervous yet?

-MF

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