I'm not sure about all these comments, mudslinging, etc. etc.

The bottom line is: Illegal aliens need to get the hell out of this country, and that is all there is to it.

MY grandparents had to do all the paper and red tape to become citizens, and they HAd to learn to speak English, too. At least the ones born here, did. They didn't bring a bunch of relatives over illegally-- they didn't make all the rest of us get discriminated against because we are NOT "Bi-lingual".

It still remains to be this: Get out IF you are not a citizen. You can visit here, fine. You can work here, with a green card. But you can't vote, can't bring your buddies over by truckload to work them to death. And cost the taxpayers money by a) loading up the emerency rooms of the hospitals b) not having insurance or driver's licenses, and getting into accidents with citizens- c. shooting our public servants. Heck, Mexico doesn't even allow non-citizens to own property. I don't think WE should either.

The Arizona folks shouldn't HAVe to be taking all this flak over their attempts to do what is the Federals JOB. NONE of this poisonous diatribe back and forth would be occurring if the LAW of our Country was being enforced.

And, if Homeland Security can do a deep body cavity of any American citizen on any pretext they want to-- then, why not the Arizona cops?

Wake up, folks, smell the coffee! The illegals start off by flouting our laws - what makes you think they will suddenly change and become law abiding citizens? Leopards don't change their spots. We got enough crooks of our own, in and out of politics. Use this energy you have to resent the Arizona folks trying to stem the tide-- and put it into getting the illegals OUT of our country. They are poisoning us to death, if it's not already too late.

The overwhelming number of immigrants are fine. They worked hard in their home country and now in ours. They followed the rules, stayed out of trouble and were allowed to enter our country and are now rightly entitled to all of the rights they earned.

Illegal immigrants on the other hand, broke the law, snuck into this country uninvited and may or may not have other undesirable and maybe dangerous characteristics.

Now many of them march in the streets demanding that they get all of the rights that the legal immigrants have. They try to hide the fact that there is a huge difference between them and the law abiding ones and for some unknown reason many foolish people here fall for this hopefully not realizing the harm they are doing to future applicants to our country.

These naive people don't realize that they, not Arizona, are the biggest threat to future immigration.

Yeah, that's who I want voting here... Some ding-bat that can't see any shades of grey between requiring -actual- probable cause for police action and the anarchy of a totally open border.

Are you an angry fearful racist european (no offense to open minded, free thinking Europeans)? What rock have you been living under to carry such an absurd way of thinking? And of course you try to remain Anonymous in your comment as a way of hiding behind your hate/fear. Try this on for size, "I'm really scared of people different from me"

For a moment change the nationality to Irish, Jewish, Italian, Russian, German, Greek, or any other ethnic group for that matter -the same ignorant fear and hate was applied to each group of immigrants. Hate and fear are mind blowers, sorry if no one has told you yet but your mind has blown a gasket!

The very first ships leaving European countries to explore the "new world" were loaded with convicts and refugees escaping persecution from their oppressors. Inhabited lands (Including Africa, Australia and American continents which includes Mexico by the way) were invaded and colonized by English criminals shipped out to Australia and Africa.

Any 10% of Mexico is kinder, more dedicated and hard work to improve their family's quality of life. The cultural reinforcement, family values and work ethic enhances the social fabric of the US and any country lucky enough to have this human population participate in the economy. How do you think businesses like Walmart is able to charge lower prices than Smiths or Albertsons (which get passed on to consumers)? By abusing the "legal status" of undocumented immigrants through underpaid labor of course! How do we benefit from their willingness to cross this or any border, risk their lives to get paid less than half of what "legals" would require? Does anyone recognize the taxes paid every time a purchase is made, and like legal citizens, the taxes taken out of their under sized paychecks?

Open your eyes or close them but take your fear and hate somewhere else, like in a cave with a hungry bear or in a jungle with wild beasts. Cynthia J.

Please don't come to Idaho. We'll hate you here as well. California is your best bet. There you can live with the crime, filth, illegals, gangs, and debauchery enjoyed by millions of Californicators everyday.

The idea that cartoons are supposed to make a point using humor is stupid.

As an example, cartoons were used to educate children in the 50's about the very serious issue of Nuclear Attack and the consequences of such an attack.

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz3t4LcXwtE

I guess they got the point across with the absolute humor of something as hilarious as total annihilation and slow death by radiation.

Did I say absolute humor? I meant absolute horror...

I won't even go into the idea that cartoons are excellent vehicles for getting past the social and mental blocks people have about being lectured...

There are three primary issues: (1) Global Labor Arbitrage, (2) Invisible (and conveniently ignored) Back-End costs, and (3) Population Explosion.

(1) Having illegals displace Americans from formerly middle class jobs such as construction and driving down wages for the lower classes is a huge issue. (It helps the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.) Basically, they are helping to transform the nation into an impoverished, third world country by pushing wages down to third world levels. In essence, it is part of our merging our nation's labor market with that of the third world. Anyone who has studied basic economics knows that when the supply of labor increases dramatically relative to the demand for labor, the price point, wages, must decrease.

(2) Illegal immigration (as well as global labor arbitrage in general) carries with it some invisible and conveniently ignored back-end costs. In other words, their cheap labor really is not that cheap. Our society has to pay for the costs of any welfare they receive such as housing assistance, actual welfare, health care costs (a huge problem), education costs for the children of illegals, and criminal justice costs (in addition to the costs of criminal acts done against Americans whose cost can be hard to measure). They are NOT paying as much money in taxes as they consume. Logic dictates that someone earning $6/hour must be paying far less in taxes if at all.

In our country, American citizens are basically going to be provided with health care, education, and often welfare. So it makes sense to pay Americans more money to do those jobs the illegals are doing then to have the Americans be unemployed while also paying for the health care and education of the illegals. (It's cheaper to provide those services for one family than for two families.)

(3) Another issue that is overlooked is that of Population Explosion. Right now our nation's population is on track to explode to about 450 million by 2050. A higher population is bad because it increases the strain on the nation's environment (like clean air and clean water?) and also decreases the amount of resources per capita. Freshwater sources, land, high quality farmland, oil, coal, natural gas, large tracts of forest that provide timber and help clean the air, etc. only exist in limited finite quantities. When the demand for these resources (more people) increases the price for these resources must also increase (ever wonder why the price of gasoline has increased over the past several decades)? Guess which Americans will end up suffering from the higher costs and decreased standard of living that results from having a higher population? The lower classes and the middle class, of course.

The illegal immigrants have children in the United States (often called anchor babies) who are American citizens. This is also a problem related to mass legal immigration.

To learn more about immigration and population explosion, see this video. In fact, no discussion of immigration should occur with out first viewing this video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5871651411393887069#

So, you see, opposition to mass legal immigration and illegal immigration is not all about "being afraid" and racism and xenophobia. Rather, there are several legitimate economic reasons for it.

Let's see...I worked for a company whose President was Irish-American, who gave his Filipina wife majority ownership so he could qualify as a minority contractor. He then proceeded to hire subs who hired illegal immigrants, and low-balled the hell out of his bids.

I questioned his I-9s, and I was told they were all in order. They weren't. He took a lot of shortcuts and lost his investors a boatload of money. If you want to look at the issue of illegal immigrants taking your jobs, look at the general contractors, not the subs.

Wait, for your #1 it sounds more like we should be going after the "companies" who hire illegal immigrants, since it was the company who hired them that took your work from you, not the illegal immigrants themselves... Also if the companies didn't keep hiring illegal immigrants then they wouldn't keep coming over the border illegally since they couldn't find any work. Just a thought.

1) That contractor is the job-thief, not to mention acting illegally. Call them on it, rather than bitching and moaning on the internet.

2) Read it again; yes, it does. It doesn't require any other cause than "reasonable suspicion" that a person may be here illegally... of course, "reason" seems to be a flexible concept down there already.

3) He tells the truth; you're the one who has trouble with it.

Illegals took your job? Was it your life's ambition to work in a meat packing plant?

what are you talking about...
they taking away jobs that they don't want 2 do x less than 8 dollars the hour...like cleanig plublic restroom,gardenig,bringing 2 your tables the begetable,babysitting your babies,cooking your food at the restaurants, washing dishes, trying to make your life easy.what a shame!!!Arizona so close to Mexico so far away from god.
and also not only illegals are commiting crimes every body knows that.

This 'toon says nothing about that. The point he's making is that Arizona's law is so broad it allows anybody to be stopped and interogated for the smallest of reason.

i guess mark doesn't know the meaning of the word ILLEGAL Why do i have to press one for English i live in AMERICA don't I ??? DUH Why are the labels on the groceries written in 2 languages Are you saying people from Mexico are TOO stupid to learn ENGLISH I DON'T THINK THEY ARE !!!!! HELLO EARTH TO BRAIN

Yeah! I really do like most of Mr. Fiore's work. This time I think his focus missed the point on illegal immigrants.

Uh....yeah....they do look like Mexicans and yeah....they are illegal. People who don't carry some form of ID in most parts would be in trouble with the law anyways.

Undocumented people need to either get documented or prepare to be deported! Hey...If I was in Mexico illegally I wouldn't get this good a turn. I have seen an outpouring of sympathy for people who are illegal but have been here so long they are friends and neighbors in the community. Well....go sponsor these people and get them into the system if they aren't already! A lot of these people are here on long expired visas.

How about tracking illegals and see where "they are stealing American Jobs" (what a fu******* joke) and arrest the people who are hiring them, stealing the tax money, and not paying a fair wage for work done.

Wonderful comment!