"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration." ~ Abraham Lincoln 1863 SOTU
As much as things change, some things remain the same.
adolf hitler also believed in compasionate government
Obama missed out the part about the state seizing elderly assets and having disabled adults banned from working and thrown in the gutter not to mention crack downs on family business and subsidies to walmart and lets not forget destroying the constitution and implementing Chinese standards
Available data is sketchy, but some reports have indicated that Hitler also inhaled a gaseous nitrogen-oxygen mixture and covered his body in fabric to prevent hypothermia in cold weather. Clearly, breathing and wearing clothes, two things that Obama has frequently been seen doing, are signs of encroaching fascism.
Also, you might want to look into those "Chinese standards." Because right now in China, the business model in Chinese factories is low wages, low safety regulations, banned unions and zero protection of workers' rights. Kinda like what the Republicans and Tea Party have been advocating since the beginning.
And why do you think they have low wages and safety? See what you get when free markets are abolished? And yes they have unions in China. The union bosses let it happen.
Chinese standards: Gun control, no homeschool, no religion, the state being centralized. Even liberal Thomas Friedman praised China.
And regarding your statement on Hitler, you might want to gander at what he said:
We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler
(Speech of May 1, 1927. Quoted by Toland, 1976, p. 306)
Breathing and wearing clothes vs disarming citizens and controling and exploiting them is as far away as Berlin is from Washington.
There are low wages in China because the Chinese government allows corporations to do whatever it takes to build the economy, even if that means letting Western businesses treat workers in their Chinese factories like scum. Yes, the government of China is partially responsible for this, but not for the reasons you think. It's because they don't regulate big business ENOUGH. They've retreated from whatever twisted form of socialism they ever had, and are now giving special privileges to any company that they think can give the country a boost.
As for your idea of Chinese standards, there is religion. I saw Christian churches operating openly while I was studying in Yunnan province just a few months ago. Gun control is definitely strict there, which I don't like, but it's also completely pointless to bring that up because Obama hasn't actually done anything to promote gun control. Same with homeschooling. Don't get me wrong; China's government can be pretty evil when it wants to(Ai Weiwei, Tiananmen, Tibet, Falun Gong, etc.), but you've got a mental picture of the country that is nothing but propaganda and outdated inaccuracies.
Also, and I'm only going to say this once because I'm getting really tired of explaining it to conservatives who have never opened their Political Science 101 textbook, but HITLER WAS A FASCIST AND NOT A SOCIALIST. He said many things to pander to the German working class, but the way he ran the country was about as far away from socialism as you can get. Communists were sent to the gas chambers too, remember?
This is so aggravating. I love to argue politics but only if the person I'm arguing with can take some time to do a little damn research first!
Short excerpt: "The mentioning of 'Socialist' was only propaganda. It is part of a larger section by Toland treating that subject and the attempt by the Nazi to develop support while weakening the other parties. Except for the racial policy and expansion, Hitler, when the party was first building its support, would say anything, no matter how disingenuous, to try and be attractive to every segment of the political society."
In other words, claiming to be a socialist doesn't necessarily make someone a socialist. It's actions that count, not words.
Submitted by Gary Kleppe on Mon, 2012-01-30 14:15.
Hitler believed in using proper punctuation and capitalization. (Actually, I don't know whether he really did or not. But if you can pull unsourced assertions out of your rear end, so can I. At least mine's somewhat plausible.)
Oh no, I also believe in using proper punctuation and capitalization! That must mean I'm Hitler! Lieber Gott im himmel!
As for your second paragraph, I think we can conclude that Obama doesn't share your hallucinations, which is probably a good thing.
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Very moving and accurate!
Very moving and accurate! Thank you for making the cartoon.
We’re for it until Obama
We’re for it until Obama picks it up... then we’re against it...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/46335268#46335268
Powerful message, Mr. Fiore.
Powerful message, Mr. Fiore.
this is the best yet, Mr.
this is the best yet, Mr. Fiore...thank you!
"Labor is prior to, and
"Labor is prior to, and independent of, capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration." ~ Abraham Lincoln 1863 SOTU
As much as things change, some things remain the same.
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adolf hitler also believed
adolf hitler also believed in compasionate government
Obama missed out the part about the state seizing elderly assets and having disabled adults banned from working and thrown in the gutter not to mention crack downs on family business and subsidies to walmart and lets not forget destroying the constitution and implementing Chinese standards
Available data is sketchy,
Available data is sketchy, but some reports have indicated that Hitler also inhaled a gaseous nitrogen-oxygen mixture and covered his body in fabric to prevent hypothermia in cold weather. Clearly, breathing and wearing clothes, two things that Obama has frequently been seen doing, are signs of encroaching fascism.
Also, you might want to look into those "Chinese standards." Because right now in China, the business model in Chinese factories is low wages, low safety regulations, banned unions and zero protection of workers' rights. Kinda like what the Republicans and Tea Party have been advocating since the beginning.
And why do you think they
And why do you think they have low wages and safety? See what you get when free markets are abolished? And yes they have unions in China. The union bosses let it happen.
Chinese standards: Gun control, no homeschool, no religion, the state being centralized. Even liberal Thomas Friedman praised China.
And regarding your statement on Hitler, you might want to gander at what he said:
We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler
(Speech of May 1, 1927. Quoted by Toland, 1976, p. 306)
Breathing and wearing clothes vs disarming citizens and controling and exploiting them is as far away as Berlin is from Washington.
There are low wages in China
There are low wages in China because the Chinese government allows corporations to do whatever it takes to build the economy, even if that means letting Western businesses treat workers in their Chinese factories like scum. Yes, the government of China is partially responsible for this, but not for the reasons you think. It's because they don't regulate big business ENOUGH. They've retreated from whatever twisted form of socialism they ever had, and are now giving special privileges to any company that they think can give the country a boost.
As for your idea of Chinese standards, there is religion. I saw Christian churches operating openly while I was studying in Yunnan province just a few months ago. Gun control is definitely strict there, which I don't like, but it's also completely pointless to bring that up because Obama hasn't actually done anything to promote gun control. Same with homeschooling. Don't get me wrong; China's government can be pretty evil when it wants to(Ai Weiwei, Tiananmen, Tibet, Falun Gong, etc.), but you've got a mental picture of the country that is nothing but propaganda and outdated inaccuracies.
Also, and I'm only going to say this once because I'm getting really tired of explaining it to conservatives who have never opened their Political Science 101 textbook, but HITLER WAS A FASCIST AND NOT A SOCIALIST. He said many things to pander to the German working class, but the way he ran the country was about as far away from socialism as you can get. Communists were sent to the gas chambers too, remember?
This is so aggravating. I love to argue politics but only if the person I'm arguing with can take some time to do a little damn research first!
It took me less than a
It took me less than a minute to find a debunking of the Hitler = socialist thing:
http://historyandpolitics77.blogspot.com/2011/03/we-are-socialists-debun...
Short excerpt: "The mentioning of 'Socialist' was only propaganda. It is part of a larger section by Toland treating that subject and the attempt by the Nazi to develop support while weakening the other parties. Except for the racial policy and expansion, Hitler, when the party was first building its support, would say anything, no matter how disingenuous, to try and be attractive to every segment of the political society."
In other words, claiming to be a socialist doesn't necessarily make someone a socialist. It's actions that count, not words.
Hitler believed in using
Hitler believed in using proper punctuation and capitalization. (Actually, I don't know whether he really did or not. But if you can pull unsourced assertions out of your rear end, so can I. At least mine's somewhat plausible.)
Oh no, I also believe in using proper punctuation and capitalization! That must mean I'm Hitler! Lieber Gott im himmel!
As for your second paragraph, I think we can conclude that Obama doesn't share your hallucinations, which is probably a good thing.
Great work!
Great work!
Awesome
Awesome
That Kenyan Socialist is at
That Kenyan Socialist is at it again!
-MF
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