Osama Bin Laden died of kidney failure in December 2001. It is not hard to find this out, if you care. The story of his supposed killing is ridiculous and has changed repeatedly as they struggle to make it believable.
Bin Laden was described by US leaders as well as his Mujahideen as the bravest men on earth, before he was made a convenient scapegoat for 9/11, which was provably a NeoCon/Zionist inside job.
As a Muslim, let me correct your racist stereotype. There is no mention of any 72 virgins in the entire Quran. It is a myth along with most Islamophobic ideas which have such currency amongst Western useful idiots. Bin Laden denied he was involved in 9/11, four times before his death a few months after it by the way, he is admired by many Muslims because of the many schools and hospitals he built. Just because your masters create a fiction around someone, does not always mean the person becomes just what you want to believe. Eventually your mistaken beliefs will lead you into a blind alley or worse. I suggest the "worse" is unfolding in the USA at this time.
Keep doing what you are doing Mark, as I am confident the two posters smearing you and your cartoons do not represent anywhere near a majority of us! Remember true geniuses inhabit these sites, and that their genius supercedes rational thought. It is instructive to follow the link near the top of this group (by anonymous 12:21). Somehow those who blogged comments after this excellent and believable expose', turned it into a "OBama Bad, we should hate Obama" venue. Nothing in the article even has a weak inference to Obama! If the population is so illiterate that they cannot see through such kindergarten capers, we are in real trouble as a civil nation.
Seeing what popular culture thinks about Ben Laden and his murder I am totally mystified. Here I go thinking I am seeing a credible, progressive, enlightend response when WOW! out of the blue, comes a 90 degree turn and then I am in Beckland. I am in Palin country and wow! these guys have swallowed some of the bulls--t---Ben Laden bad bad human beling. Ben Laden culpable (single handedly) of all the atrocious atrocities including 9-11. Actually, i think I am reading exerpts from The Protocols of the Elders of Zionism. Try it guys. You'll be amazed. You may even be mystified like me.
Nope. Not so much. If you believe that, you probably also believe in other completely mythological things like "Supply Side Economics" working. I know that Dick Cheney says that if you say something, it automatically becomes true, but that's not really the way reality works. It's the way delusional paranoia works. "The Torture Crowd" did what they did because they felt completely impotent, and having a "valid" excuse for torturing people made them feel better about themselves. It has been proven again and again and again that torture does not work, and that you're more likely to get false information than anything. But, as usual, conservatives will cling to their happy delusions, rocking back and forth and chanting "It wasn't Obama that got it done, WE DID!"
Yeah, basically a bunch of barbarians torturing mostly innocent people for years and then murdering a bunch of unarmed people and calling it a "victory for justice".
Looks like your "good guys" have reached the same level of barbarity as the bad guys.
I think that with Al-Quaida themselves confirming the death of Osama, it's pretty much a certainty that they've got him. I can't come up with any reason why'd they do so. I mean, the actual smart thing would have been for Al-Qaida to deny it and make the conspiracy theorists and Western media do the work for them in casting doubt and disent. It would have made a legend out of the man instead of just another dead martyr.
R.I.P. Osama.
By the way, I approve of shooting the blighter. Trials are for unarmed people who are still innocent within reasonable doubt. Not for dangerous extremist with a weapon in the form of a small army in his clenched fist. He has already pleaded guilty. Wether a bullet to the face or a needle to the arm, the outcome is the same. Let's not give him the pleasure of a media circus.
Have you seen the production values on those tapes of his? Jeez, talk about badly written dialogue. Would you really be willing to sit through 2 hours of him spouting jihad in a court?
Hardly. al-Qaeda is a US invention. This is not exactly a secret, the delusion it is a real Muslim terrorist organisation persists due to a strong media campaign but the same media does also set the record straight if you care to find out.
Not for me, it doesn't, MF. I was always taught that the end does not justify the means. If Anonymous thinks that it does, then i guess that once terrorists get their way, the end will justify their means. Here's a good little article about the US Inquisition.
I only hope there is a hell for Mr. Bin Laden. Unfortunately though, i believe death is just a void or nothing. Like being under anesthesia! But your vision sure does tickle me. Good work (again) Mr. Fiore.
I'm glad OBL is finally gone and I can't wait for the day to see the pics or video. Though they are released today I'm sure someday down the line they will. The Taliban has confirmed his death so anyone who thinks this operation is fake is dreaming.
As for the person making comments about India I have friends that live there and they have plenty of terrorist camps in their country too. The police being scared turn a blind eye to it. So don't be fooled into thinking that's such a perfect country.
Wow! What a bunch of p----s most of you commenters are! I'm sorry to put it that way, but OBL was a war criminal and murderer. There is no question about his role in 9/11. He enthusiastically praised the 9/11 murders and freely admitted conceiving the operation. He threatened that there was more death and blood in the streets to follow. War is hell and OBL declared it on the US. He took himself outside of the protections of the US Constitution by starting his war. He is now a war casualty. We are not "barbarians like them," we are pursuers of cowardly mass murderers who kill then run and hide. As a nation, we could not be more proud of the men, women and leadership who together tracked down this remorseless jackal and stopped his leadership of terror. Obama is to be commended for his strength and leadership in greenlighting this mission. Now having said that, I would also understand it if Iraqi "Seals" were to helicopter into the GW Bush compound in Texas and perform a similar operation there. After all, W ordered the killing of tens of thousands Iraqi citizens... he bears equal guilt for the slaughter of human life. I wouldn't be happy about it, but I would understand the justice.
Submitted by Gary Kleppe on Mon, 2011-05-09 14:30.
Yeah, only total p----s like us follow the law even when it becomes inconvenient.
A real manly man's man would wet his pants at the sight of big scary brown man and beg big daddy government to save us from big scary brown man by whatever means it decided to be necessary.
My, My, My. What a goood obedient Nationalistic Podling we are.There of course is PLENTY of evidence that OBL had nothing to do with 911. You Christian Zionists just don't want to hear it. And Please stop weeeing on everyone. Murder for Hire Contract Killers are nothing to be proud of.
Not to forget that the U-government desperately needed a "victory" (as the situation in Afghanistan is obviously out of their control) and Obama needed a push for his popularity.
In the end this shameless massacre is just another stab in the back of democracy and justice.
And since much of the press is now strongly pointed against Pakistan's involvement it is also VERY obvious that the US-government tries actively to present the country as an international pariah and destabilise it to the point where they "must" simply take the nukes out of their hands for them not to fall into the hands of "muslim extremists".
India, on the other hand, is also very busy claiming that they "may" now strike against "terrorism" in Pakistan in the very same way the US have. So, another thanks for potentially starting the next war down there, US-government!
Superstition ("intelligent design"), torture, rule of force, mercenary armies, "crusades" against terrorism (read: wars of conquest) and rich merchants running the state.
I understand the opposition to torture thingy. Got a problem with lynch justice? No trial. Just an execution. Even Nicolae Ceausescu got a trial, sort of.
Seeing how all we have is the word of some people who have a habit of telling us things that are not true, I tend to doubt what they tell me. I don't see any evidence the tall, bearded guy has been alive for nearly a decade. Rumor has it he has been dead since 2001 or 2002. The U.S. has been pretending he was alive like they did Hussein had WMD. The quick mob style arrangement of letting Osama sleep with the fishes makes the whole affair highly suspect, IMO. Maybe we should all watch "Wag the Dog" again.
I don't want to be a party pooper. So I say have your belated death to a hated enemy celebration and pretend the bloated military industrial complex is not eating our economy alive.
No, good riddance to you, Mr. Fiore as you've finally become nothing more than another propagandist making some mild fun of the "official" version while not seeing that your heroic nation has reached the exact same level of those barbarians it wanted to show the values of REAL democracy and REAL justice.
Instead the terrorist that would have deserved a trial and a sentence - allowing for a debriefing about his organisation and a deconstruction as an idol - has now become a martyr!
Congratulations! They have utterly failed and you have obviously failed to understand it!
Correct me if I am wrong, and I will wear the jackass shoes!
Because a comment is made within this cartoonists blog, does not necessarily mean MF made it, or agrees with it. This isn't the first time reactionaries have responded to anonymous copy as though it were the opinion of MF! Wake up, Stupids, and ask yourselves how others are to value your opinions, if you cannot properly source the unknown ones you are crucifying!! Analytical discourse should not be shot-gunned under an author's name anyway, based alone on who is pecking the keyboard (it is a rare author who is not eclectic to some extent). Is it really so tough to debate the issue, instead of attacking a particular person. Reminds me of Knuckles in a way, who I dare shotgun in a manner inconsistent with my previous general statements (since Knuckles opinions are 100% predictable)! I will listen to opposing views on this.
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Osama Bin Laden died of
Osama Bin Laden died of kidney failure in December 2001. It is not hard to find this out, if you care. The story of his supposed killing is ridiculous and has changed repeatedly as they struggle to make it believable.
Bin Laden was described by US leaders as well as his Mujahideen as the bravest men on earth, before he was made a convenient scapegoat for 9/11, which was provably a NeoCon/Zionist inside job.
As a Muslim, let me correct your racist stereotype. There is no mention of any 72 virgins in the entire Quran. It is a myth along with most Islamophobic ideas which have such currency amongst Western useful idiots. Bin Laden denied he was involved in 9/11, four times before his death a few months after it by the way, he is admired by many Muslims because of the many schools and hospitals he built. Just because your masters create a fiction around someone, does not always mean the person becomes just what you want to believe. Eventually your mistaken beliefs will lead you into a blind alley or worse. I suggest the "worse" is unfolding in the USA at this time.
Snickering at Jews again you
Snickering at Jews again you nazi? Yeah, I got news for you. We were attacked by Arab Muslims not Jews. That really is getting old.
Keep doing what you are
Keep doing what you are doing Mark, as I am confident the two posters smearing you and your cartoons do not represent anywhere near a majority of us! Remember true geniuses inhabit these sites, and that their genius supercedes rational thought. It is instructive to follow the link near the top of this group (by anonymous 12:21). Somehow those who blogged comments after this excellent and believable expose', turned it into a "OBama Bad, we should hate Obama" venue. Nothing in the article even has a weak inference to Obama! If the population is so illiterate that they cannot see through such kindergarten capers, we are in real trouble as a civil nation.
I'd like to think this is
I'd like to think this is what happened to Osama.
http://www.toonhole.com/2011/05/osama-72-virgins/
I thought this was a better
I thought this was a better one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwtDrRWHgr0
Seeing what popular culture
Seeing what popular culture thinks about Ben Laden and his murder I am totally mystified. Here I go thinking I am seeing a credible, progressive, enlightend response when WOW! out of the blue, comes a 90 degree turn and then I am in Beckland. I am in Palin country and wow! these guys have swallowed some of the bulls--t---Ben Laden bad bad human beling. Ben Laden culpable (single handedly) of all the atrocious atrocities including 9-11. Actually, i think I am reading exerpts from The Protocols of the Elders of Zionism. Try it guys. You'll be amazed. You may even be mystified like me.
The don knotts voice at the
The don knotts voice at the end is a great touch.
It was what you call "the
It was what you call "the Torture Crowd" that got the information which resulted in this good deed.
Nope. Not so much. If you
Nope. Not so much. If you believe that, you probably also believe in other completely mythological things like "Supply Side Economics" working. I know that Dick Cheney says that if you say something, it automatically becomes true, but that's not really the way reality works. It's the way delusional paranoia works. "The Torture Crowd" did what they did because they felt completely impotent, and having a "valid" excuse for torturing people made them feel better about themselves. It has been proven again and again and again that torture does not work, and that you're more likely to get false information than anything. But, as usual, conservatives will cling to their happy delusions, rocking back and forth and chanting "It wasn't Obama that got it done, WE DID!"
Yeah, basically a bunch of
Yeah, basically a bunch of barbarians torturing mostly innocent people for years and then murdering a bunch of unarmed people and calling it a "victory for justice".
Looks like your "good guys" have reached the same level of barbarity as the bad guys.
I think that with Al-Quaida
I think that with Al-Quaida themselves confirming the death of Osama, it's pretty much a certainty that they've got him. I can't come up with any reason why'd they do so. I mean, the actual smart thing would have been for Al-Qaida to deny it and make the conspiracy theorists and Western media do the work for them in casting doubt and disent. It would have made a legend out of the man instead of just another dead martyr.
R.I.P. Osama.
By the way, I approve of shooting the blighter. Trials are for unarmed people who are still innocent within reasonable doubt. Not for dangerous extremist with a weapon in the form of a small army in his clenched fist. He has already pleaded guilty. Wether a bullet to the face or a needle to the arm, the outcome is the same. Let's not give him the pleasure of a media circus.
Have you seen the production values on those tapes of his? Jeez, talk about badly written dialogue. Would you really be willing to sit through 2 hours of him spouting jihad in a court?
Hardly. al-Qaeda is a US
Hardly. al-Qaeda is a US invention. This is not exactly a secret, the delusion it is a real Muslim terrorist organisation persists due to a strong media campaign but the same media does also set the record straight if you care to find out.
Not for me, it doesn't, MF.
Not for me, it doesn't, MF. I was always taught that the end does not justify the means. If Anonymous thinks that it does, then i guess that once terrorists get their way, the end will justify their means. Here's a good little article about the US Inquisition.
http://www.truthout.org/filling-gaping-holes-wikileaks-guantanamo-detain...
I only hope there is a hell for Mr. Bin Laden. Unfortunately though, i believe death is just a void or nothing. Like being under anesthesia! But your vision sure does tickle me. Good work (again) Mr. Fiore.
I'm glad OBL is finally gone
I'm glad OBL is finally gone and I can't wait for the day to see the pics or video. Though they are released today I'm sure someday down the line they will. The Taliban has confirmed his death so anyone who thinks this operation is fake is dreaming.
As for the person making comments about India I have friends that live there and they have plenty of terrorist camps in their country too. The police being scared turn a blind eye to it. So don't be fooled into thinking that's such a perfect country.
Wow! What a bunch of p----s
Wow! What a bunch of p----s most of you commenters are! I'm sorry to put it that way, but OBL was a war criminal and murderer. There is no question about his role in 9/11. He enthusiastically praised the 9/11 murders and freely admitted conceiving the operation. He threatened that there was more death and blood in the streets to follow. War is hell and OBL declared it on the US. He took himself outside of the protections of the US Constitution by starting his war. He is now a war casualty. We are not "barbarians like them," we are pursuers of cowardly mass murderers who kill then run and hide. As a nation, we could not be more proud of the men, women and leadership who together tracked down this remorseless jackal and stopped his leadership of terror. Obama is to be commended for his strength and leadership in greenlighting this mission. Now having said that, I would also understand it if Iraqi "Seals" were to helicopter into the GW Bush compound in Texas and perform a similar operation there. After all, W ordered the killing of tens of thousands Iraqi citizens... he bears equal guilt for the slaughter of human life. I wouldn't be happy about it, but I would understand the justice.
Yeah, only total p----s like
Yeah, only total p----s like us follow the law even when it becomes inconvenient.
A real manly man's man would wet his pants at the sight of big scary brown man and beg big daddy government to save us from big scary brown man by whatever means it decided to be necessary.
My, My, My. What a goood
My, My, My. What a goood obedient Nationalistic Podling we are.There of course is PLENTY of evidence that OBL had nothing to do with 911. You Christian Zionists just don't want to hear it. And Please stop weeeing on everyone. Murder for Hire Contract Killers are nothing to be proud of.
mmmm.... nice!
mmmm.... nice!
Mossad is probably laughing
Mossad is probably laughing their foreskins off knowing they got away with another one.
Not to forget that the
Not to forget that the U-government desperately needed a "victory" (as the situation in Afghanistan is obviously out of their control) and Obama needed a push for his popularity.
In the end this shameless massacre is just another stab in the back of democracy and justice.
And since much of the press is now strongly pointed against Pakistan's involvement it is also VERY obvious that the US-government tries actively to present the country as an international pariah and destabilise it to the point where they "must" simply take the nukes out of their hands for them not to fall into the hands of "muslim extremists".
India, on the other hand, is also very busy claiming that they "may" now strike against "terrorism" in Pakistan in the very same way the US have. So, another thanks for potentially starting the next war down there, US-government!
Thank goodness most of us
Thank goodness most of us don't think alike!
We'd still be in the middle ages.
You still ARE living in the
You still ARE living in the middle ages.
Superstition ("intelligent design"), torture, rule of force, mercenary armies, "crusades" against terrorism (read: wars of conquest) and rich merchants running the state.
Huh?
Huh?
I understand the opposition
I understand the opposition to torture thingy. Got a problem with lynch justice? No trial. Just an execution. Even Nicolae Ceausescu got a trial, sort of.
Seeing how all we have is the word of some people who have a habit of telling us things that are not true, I tend to doubt what they tell me. I don't see any evidence the tall, bearded guy has been alive for nearly a decade. Rumor has it he has been dead since 2001 or 2002. The U.S. has been pretending he was alive like they did Hussein had WMD. The quick mob style arrangement of letting Osama sleep with the fishes makes the whole affair highly suspect, IMO. Maybe we should all watch "Wag the Dog" again.
I don't want to be a party pooper. So I say have your belated death to a hated enemy celebration and pretend the bloated military industrial complex is not eating our economy alive.
No, good riddance to you,
No, good riddance to you, Mr. Fiore as you've finally become nothing more than another propagandist making some mild fun of the "official" version while not seeing that your heroic nation has reached the exact same level of those barbarians it wanted to show the values of REAL democracy and REAL justice.
Instead the terrorist that would have deserved a trial and a sentence - allowing for a debriefing about his organisation and a deconstruction as an idol - has now become a martyr!
Congratulations! They have utterly failed and you have obviously failed to understand it!
Now go see
Now go see http://www.markfiore.com/political-cartoons/watch-obama-drone-attack-kil...
Correct me if I am wrong,
Correct me if I am wrong, and I will wear the jackass shoes!
Because a comment is made within this cartoonists blog, does not necessarily mean MF made it, or agrees with it. This isn't the first time reactionaries have responded to anonymous copy as though it were the opinion of MF! Wake up, Stupids, and ask yourselves how others are to value your opinions, if you cannot properly source the unknown ones you are crucifying!! Analytical discourse should not be shot-gunned under an author's name anyway, based alone on who is pecking the keyboard (it is a rare author who is not eclectic to some extent). Is it really so tough to debate the issue, instead of attacking a particular person. Reminds me of Knuckles in a way, who I dare shotgun in a manner inconsistent with my previous general statements (since Knuckles opinions are 100% predictable)! I will listen to opposing views on this.
I agree! The past several
I agree! The past several videos produced by you, Mr. Fiore, have not been funny - just propaganda. Go back to the style you started in, please.
Okay, so my opposition to
Okay, so my opposition to torture apparently ends once someone is in hell.
-MF
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