Thanks for some more laughs! It's shocking that "supply side", tinkle down economic theory is still under public discussion. After thirty years of these policies, what we have seen is incredible "de-investment" with this country's economic manufacturing base largely moving oversees, the gap between rich and poor widening drastically, the middle class being squeezed, and a lack of investment in infrastructure. Time and again, cutting taxes on the rich does not lead to increased investment, economic growth or prosperity for everyone... Instead, services erode, costs are shifted to the middle class, and the money supply tightens. What really puzzles me is that most of the supporters of tinkle down (and the tea-baggers), are hurt (not helped) by these policies... they aren't the ones who benefit from low capitol gains taxes, repealed estate taxes, or the historically low top-tier income taxes.
Submitted by hanoverfiste on Thu, 2011-07-14 16:14.
The only thing I can say on wether taxes work for or against jobs is this.
During 8 years of Clinton we had 23 Million new jobs
During the 8 of Bush we had 2.3 million new jobs.
The first man raised taxes and the second cut them.
Trickle down does not work I wish the GOP would stop doubling down on policies they SHOULD know are not working.
ANd when I say "Doubling Down" Its when the GOP is shown it has a losing hand tries to make it better by doing the same wrong thing rather than admit it was wrong. Like doubling down on a 22 in black jack and hoping to win somehow.
One man's theology ... is another man's belly laugh.
There's more than that... First, under Clinton we had a GOP house and senate that passed surplus spending and curtailed many of Clinton's polcies.
Clinton also borrowed money from the Chinese and sold them secrets to cover the deficit and also cooked the books. One way was a scheme used by Reagan... Screen out unemployed workers on weflare or looking for work for more than a year to make unemployment look low. Bush I and II did that too.
Bush's problem: Some of Clinton's policies came back on him. For one thing expanding the community Reinvestment act, passing laws that cripple small business and the self employed and in addition, Democrat states and cities passed outrageous fees and taxes that caused bankruptcies. Many of them moved to middle america.
That and we had Nancy Pelosi and a Democrat congress that hiked the minimum wage, passed environmentalist laws that destroyed manufatcuring and regulated the economy even more.
That... And there was a war, bush was a big spender on both military and social spending, he increased our government and he parlayed to illegal aliens. So thats the problem.
Submitted by mainestategop on Mon, 2011-07-11 23:00.
Once upon a time in the kingdom of the democrat tax hike fairies(maine) there lived a poor boy named Tommy Tax Hike(Real name Gregory Wilton) One day, Tommy was invited by the GOP King to the magical land of low taxes and small government prosperity (TEXAS) Where an opening in a paying job awaited him.
But The evil parents (liberals I might add) Forbade tommy to leave Maine because according to them he was mentally ill and stupid from being abused as a child and that it was better for him to live in No Job expensive Maine to participate in Programs for his own benefit! The Wizards of Acadia Mental Hospital declared him mentally incompitent because he was abused as a child and said he had Asperger's syndrome. they said he would never work at a job and be independent or get married (EVEN THOUGH HAD HAD BEEN THROUGH ALL THAT BEFORE HAVEING IT TAKEN FROM HIM AND HIS WIFE DIED)
Tommy was forced to stay in Maine and had his money taken away from him and later lost the current job he had. His Parents forced him into Magic SSI where he got only 450 a month and was forced to take magic pills (psychemeds) that hurt his head. The Magical Tax hike fairies and the socialist regulation pixies all had a plan to make tommy ALL better! They would sprinkle magic communism dust over Maine and that would make the ecnomy better! By raising taxes and increasing regulations and wasting money on more magic welfare programs.
As the few job producers and manufacturers left in the state saw the gift bestowed by the magical liberal fairies, they smiled, closed down their businesses and filed for bankruptcy. the rest moved to The GOP kingdoms of Middle America to start anew. Except for poor Tommy who was banned from leaving and working.
And Tommy never worked again. And the super rich and the liberals were SOOOOOO HAPPY!
THE END.
And BTW this is a true story and proves that liberals are against jobs. I only thank God I was able to Escape to New Hampshire.
You will never have me believe that there is not more to this made-up bunch of crap. Since your ilk are so antigovernment, why did you not do the righteous GOP thing and take in this hapless, homeless individual? Sounds like he could have afforded
to pay a fair rent. Oh, you would rather tell one side of a doubtful story, then turn it into a monologue about how liberals are against job! I think you might should share some of your friends psyche pills, or are you already?
A little rough, eh,dude?
Well, I am a liberal, and do not appreciate you deciding what I am for, and what I am against. I cannot stand you, either, but I like to think I am above making up and telling people what you are for or against! What nerve and stupidity to draw the conclusion that I, or any liberal, is against jobs, just because you refuse to open your doors to a homeless friend!
Submitted by theroyprocess on Mon, 2011-07-11 15:30.
Now it's 'your (tax) money, which everybody pays, AND your life!'. Changing the words is not an excuse! The old movie, 'All Quiet on the Western Front' said '...all you know...is if you are alive or dead'.
Is the grand illusion simply to change the words like, 'theft to bailout'? If you pay an extra ten thousand dollars in addition to the social security money automatically taken from your pay check, an 'entitlement'?
Extortion today is carried out with a smile and a lie, quite nicely!
#1 Product manufacturing in the world
#1 Exporting country in the world
#1 Financial LENDER in the world
30 years of trickle down...Greenspan's 'Reaganomics' has put the U.S. at the bottom in all categories...except, now we're the #1 money BORROWER in the world!
How long will the U.S. continue the trickle down insanity
Submitted by theroyprocess on Sun, 2011-07-10 03:21.
Arnie Gundersen and professor. Chris Busby of England, gave important talks about invisible, long lasting DNA damage from 1945. Everyone has some degree of radioactive fallout already! All we can do now is minimize exposure. We must stop nuclear power.
Well thats what you get for having a big enough government that can give you anything you want.
It can take everything away FROM YOU!
Add to this we now have fewer liberties less freedom and jobs and those EEEEEVIL corporations are more powerfulthan ever.
Liberals just cant seem to think through the consequences of their actions. They think a big socialist government will keep big business at bay but then they bribe the government and now they are more powerful than ever.
And lets not forget we now have a national debt that is about to explode from all the give aways to the CEOS and to the lazy people on welfare.
As for creating jobs, most of our jobs came from small businesses. They ae the back bone of our economy But Government red tape and high taxes have made it impossible for them to compete and all these hoops and barriers prevent new jobs from being created.
An important first step is to elminate government regulations against small business and red tape.
republican AND liberal. Obama's policies made the economy worse and we've now lost more jobs as a result of the so called bailout than he claimed we would have lost in the first place.
NEVER TRUST A GOVERNMENT. GOVERNMENT IS AGAINST JOBS
Submitted by mainestategop on Mon, 2011-07-11 23:02.
Really? Even the government admits, low tax states like Texas, Oklahoma, Kansans Nebraska, New Hampshire and Colorado are looking good while Michigan Vermont Maine and California bleed jobs.
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Thanks for some more laughs!
Thanks for some more laughs! It's shocking that "supply side", tinkle down economic theory is still under public discussion. After thirty years of these policies, what we have seen is incredible "de-investment" with this country's economic manufacturing base largely moving oversees, the gap between rich and poor widening drastically, the middle class being squeezed, and a lack of investment in infrastructure. Time and again, cutting taxes on the rich does not lead to increased investment, economic growth or prosperity for everyone... Instead, services erode, costs are shifted to the middle class, and the money supply tightens. What really puzzles me is that most of the supporters of tinkle down (and the tea-baggers), are hurt (not helped) by these policies... they aren't the ones who benefit from low capitol gains taxes, repealed estate taxes, or the historically low top-tier income taxes.
The only thing I can say on
The only thing I can say on wether taxes work for or against jobs is this.
During 8 years of Clinton we had 23 Million new jobs
During the 8 of Bush we had 2.3 million new jobs.
The first man raised taxes and the second cut them.
Trickle down does not work I wish the GOP would stop doubling down on policies they SHOULD know are not working.
ANd when I say "Doubling Down" Its when the GOP is shown it has a losing hand tries to make it better by doing the same wrong thing rather than admit it was wrong. Like doubling down on a 22 in black jack and hoping to win somehow.
One man's theology ... is another man's belly laugh.
There's more than that...
There's more than that... First, under Clinton we had a GOP house and senate that passed surplus spending and curtailed many of Clinton's polcies.
Clinton also borrowed money from the Chinese and sold them secrets to cover the deficit and also cooked the books. One way was a scheme used by Reagan... Screen out unemployed workers on weflare or looking for work for more than a year to make unemployment look low. Bush I and II did that too.
Bush's problem: Some of Clinton's policies came back on him. For one thing expanding the community Reinvestment act, passing laws that cripple small business and the self employed and in addition, Democrat states and cities passed outrageous fees and taxes that caused bankruptcies. Many of them moved to middle america.
That and we had Nancy Pelosi and a Democrat congress that hiked the minimum wage, passed environmentalist laws that destroyed manufatcuring and regulated the economy even more.
That... And there was a war, bush was a big spender on both military and social spending, he increased our government and he parlayed to illegal aliens. So thats the problem.
I thought it was the tinkle
I thought it was the tinkle down theory instead of the trickle down theory.
Once upon a time in the
Once upon a time in the kingdom of the democrat tax hike fairies(maine) there lived a poor boy named Tommy Tax Hike(Real name Gregory Wilton) One day, Tommy was invited by the GOP King to the magical land of low taxes and small government prosperity (TEXAS) Where an opening in a paying job awaited him.
But The evil parents (liberals I might add) Forbade tommy to leave Maine because according to them he was mentally ill and stupid from being abused as a child and that it was better for him to live in No Job expensive Maine to participate in Programs for his own benefit! The Wizards of Acadia Mental Hospital declared him mentally incompitent because he was abused as a child and said he had Asperger's syndrome. they said he would never work at a job and be independent or get married (EVEN THOUGH HAD HAD BEEN THROUGH ALL THAT BEFORE HAVEING IT TAKEN FROM HIM AND HIS WIFE DIED)
Tommy was forced to stay in Maine and had his money taken away from him and later lost the current job he had. His Parents forced him into Magic SSI where he got only 450 a month and was forced to take magic pills (psychemeds) that hurt his head. The Magical Tax hike fairies and the socialist regulation pixies all had a plan to make tommy ALL better! They would sprinkle magic communism dust over Maine and that would make the ecnomy better! By raising taxes and increasing regulations and wasting money on more magic welfare programs.
As the few job producers and manufacturers left in the state saw the gift bestowed by the magical liberal fairies, they smiled, closed down their businesses and filed for bankruptcy. the rest moved to The GOP kingdoms of Middle America to start anew. Except for poor Tommy who was banned from leaving and working.
And Tommy never worked again. And the super rich and the liberals were SOOOOOO HAPPY!
THE END.
And BTW this is a true story and proves that liberals are against jobs. I only thank God I was able to Escape to New Hampshire.
You will never have me
You will never have me believe that there is not more to this made-up bunch of crap. Since your ilk are so antigovernment, why did you not do the righteous GOP thing and take in this hapless, homeless individual? Sounds like he could have afforded
to pay a fair rent. Oh, you would rather tell one side of a doubtful story, then turn it into a monologue about how liberals are against job! I think you might should share some of your friends psyche pills, or are you already?
A little rough, eh,dude?
Well, I am a liberal, and do not appreciate you deciding what I am for, and what I am against. I cannot stand you, either, but I like to think I am above making up and telling people what you are for or against! What nerve and stupidity to draw the conclusion that I, or any liberal, is against jobs, just because you refuse to open your doors to a homeless friend!
Now it's 'your (tax) money,
Now it's 'your (tax) money, which everybody pays, AND your life!'. Changing the words is not an excuse! The old movie, 'All Quiet on the Western Front' said '...all you know...is if you are alive or dead'.
Is the grand illusion simply to change the words like, 'theft to bailout'? If you pay an extra ten thousand dollars in addition to the social security money automatically taken from your pay check, an 'entitlement'?
Extortion today is carried out with a smile and a lie, quite nicely!
In 1980 the U.S. was... #1
In 1980 the U.S. was...
#1 Product manufacturing in the world
#1 Exporting country in the world
#1 Financial LENDER in the world
30 years of trickle down...Greenspan's 'Reaganomics' has put the U.S. at the bottom in all categories...except, now we're the #1 money BORROWER in the world!
How long will the U.S. continue the trickle down insanity
If it makes you feel better
If it makes you feel better the US is the #1 garbage exporter. Not only that, garbage is our biggest export!
Sigh...
Arnie Gundersen and
Arnie Gundersen and professor. Chris Busby of England, gave important talks about invisible, long lasting DNA damage from 1945. Everyone has some degree of radioactive fallout already! All we can do now is minimize exposure. We must stop nuclear power.
Digesting Undetectable Hot Particles From Fukushima -
N.Hemisphere Softkill - Arnie Gundersen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW8pxVbVKfQ
Dr Chris Busby on infertility risk around Fukushima, Japan, etc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9lyx...eature=related
yeah lets all go back to the
yeah lets all go back to the stone age.
More green nazi propaganda by the people who took DDT away fromthe third world and gave it malaria in exchange.
Malaria is a localized
Malaria is a localized problem for those living close to swamps and water-ways.
DDT in the water and food can travel throughout the world where it becomes EVERYONE'S problem.
-Bones
Well, the Dutch saw it years
Well, the Dutch saw it years ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuPgdZeAFjA - tick tock tick tock.
Well thats what you get for
Well thats what you get for having a big enough government that can give you anything you want.
It can take everything away FROM YOU!
Add to this we now have fewer liberties less freedom and jobs and those EEEEEVIL corporations are more powerfulthan ever.
Liberals just cant seem to think through the consequences of their actions. They think a big socialist government will keep big business at bay but then they bribe the government and now they are more powerful than ever.
And lets not forget we now have a national debt that is about to explode from all the give aways to the CEOS and to the lazy people on welfare.
As for creating jobs, most of our jobs came from small businesses. They ae the back bone of our economy But Government red tape and high taxes have made it impossible for them to compete and all these hoops and barriers prevent new jobs from being created.
An important first step is to elminate government regulations against small business and red tape.
You realise the colapse
You realise the colapse happened under a republican government..... Right?
republican AND liberal.
republican AND liberal. Obama's policies made the economy worse and we've now lost more jobs as a result of the so called bailout than he claimed we would have lost in the first place.
NEVER TRUST A GOVERNMENT. GOVERNMENT IS AGAINST JOBS
Yep, suffering extreme loss
Yep, suffering extreme loss of liberty here. Wait, what?
Sounds like a FOX news sound
Sounds like a FOX news sound bite. Blah.
Really? Even the government
Really? Even the government admits, low tax states like Texas, Oklahoma, Kansans Nebraska, New Hampshire and Colorado are looking good while Michigan Vermont Maine and California bleed jobs.
I'm sure the infusion of
I'm sure the infusion of government funds and the inflated numbers from less than legal employees have nothing to do with that, right?
New Hampshire where I live
New Hampshire where I live doesnt even get a dime of government funds. Also not having red tape restrict development and hiring helps quite a lot.
Down is looking up! (Thanks
Down is looking up! (Thanks to the debt ceiling negotiations.)
-MF
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