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Just give it time and you won't have to do anything bad or hide, but your freedom of speech, freedom of choice, freedom of religion, freedom of healthcare, even freedom to choose if you want salt on your fries, that is if you can have fries or sweets or whatever is denied. There are many things on the list already so get ready, you don't have anything to hide. Nope, just let them take them away! Then maybe you'll wake up.
He wasn't wiretapfriendly:
"The FBI is Tracking Whom?
They're tracking a college student in Silicon Valley. He's 20, partially Egyptian, and studying marketing at Mission College. He found the tracking device attached to his car. Near as he could tell, what he did to warrant the FBI's attention is be the friend of someone who did something to warrant the FBI's attention."
And you thought "1984" was just a fiction novel, huh? Snuggly is really pretty f*cking scary in what he's doing. Such a great free world we're living in these days, eh gang? Kind of makes getting out of bed totally pointless.
It's just not good civic hygiene to build into law, as well as deploy, the technological basis for a police state. Even if you could successfully argue that the U.S. is nowhere near this point, and that argument is getting harder to believe every year, allowing the government to do this is not a great idea.
To those who say "I have nothing to hide" I say that you have everything to lose. What will you do if that ebook you read, or idea you expressed in an email to a friend is later perceived as "disloyal" or "against Americanism"? That data trail will be there forever and could come back to haunt you in ways you could never imagine. Remember the McCarthy era? Imagine what he could have done with 20 years of your email and amazon purchases.
To our Canadian friends: Yes you really don't get us because you have a government that exists to serve your needs. This has not been the case in the U.S. for a very long time. We have some very good reasons to distrust and fear our government. For a start, just look at all of the wars we've fought under false pretenses over the past fifty years or so. Our history speaks for itself really.
Magnetohydrodynamics always gets extra clicks on my phone line.
How about a Snuggly Volume Control?
Just wanted to let you know that Snuggly's giggle has to be one of the most twisted sounds I've heard in a long while.
Keep up the good work, Mark!
You don't have to have done anything illegal--you only have to own something worth stealing (such as a house, a car, a computer . . . ) and that alone is enough motive for anybody monitoring you to fabricate evidence of your guilt. As long as they can afford better lawyers than you can, they can then use this fake evidence to confiscate everything that you own under forfeiture laws. For example, a cop searches your car at a traffic stop, and he "finds" some illegal drugs in it that you, the car owner, have never actually seen before. In several states, that alone is enough to get your car confiscated with zero compensation for you.
John Stossel covered the topic of forfeiture laws in one of his shows. See his syndicated column titled, "Confiscating Your Property" on May 19, 2010 at - http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnStossel/2010/05/19/confiscating_your_...
Right on! An excellent book covering the topic of forfeiture laws is, "The Tyranny of Good Intentions: How Prosecutors and Bureaucrats Are Trampling the Constitution in the Name of Justice," by Paul Craig Roberts and Lawrence M. Stratton. It scared me so bad, I had to smoke a blunt.
Unfortunately, per Gonzales vs. Raich (2005), I am not allowed to do this legally in California. Apparently, the Commerce Clause applies to medicinal marijuana use, regardless of state law. If you want an example of how modern "liberals" and conservatives have co-conspired - via judicial activism - to steal our liberty, consider that the precedent for Raich was Wickard vs. Filburn (1942).
In other words, a blantant disregard for economic liberty (Wickard) has resulted in federal agents denying me the freedom to inhale chronic into my own body, in my own home no less! At least the federal government had the honesty to pass a Constitutional amendment to ban alcohol consumption in 1919 (18th Amendment); later repealed, of course, in 1933 (21st Amendment).
How does one repeal a Supreme Court decision, no matter how contrary it might be to the original meaning and intent of the Founding Fathers? The Constitution is dead-letter, and anyone who advocates the "Living Constitution" doctrine should be tarred and feathered.
Ah damn! I take that back..., that would probably run afoul of the Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause in the 8th Amendment.
Nov. 2nd can't come soon enough!! Vote libertarian!!!
The Commerce Clause wouldn't apply if you grow your own weed, in your own home, and smoke it without transportation, but law enforcement can now assume that you "intended" to sell it, regardless of proof or the absence thereof. Of course, there's no recourse! There goes your house!
8th Amendment? You mean some of them still matter? Tar and feathers it is!
Lol that is the whole point of the Wickard v Filburn. he was growing his own wheat for his own consumption & never transported said wheat to market.
I want to be snuggly secure! Go after the guys with curly beards!
Isn't this what Facebook is for? :P
Only if you're a complete moron.
Redundancy can't hurt.
I thought Snuggly was just a plush version of Mr. Zuckerberg.
BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU!
To those of us who are Constitutional originalists, wire-tapping is a clear violation of the 4th Amendment:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
Not to mention that the US has no jurisdiction for this kind of outside its own territory, and the very idea of global media and the internet completely shoots the idea in the foot right from the word go.
please explain some more...
I'm not sure why Americans get in such a knot over this stuff. I don't do anything bad, therefore I have nothing to hide.
Watch me all you want. I promise you it will be VERY boring.
PLEASE tell us you're joking. If not, then it would be entertaining to hear your definition of what "bad" is. That has been a raging debate ever since language developed to the point where debate was possible. You'd be going up against Socrates, Aquinas, etc., etc., etc., so good luck with THAT.
Among other things, this kind of data mining allows interested parties to manipulate Fred far more easily than "traditional" methods.
Suppose Mr. 3rd Party wants to put an oil pipeline through Fred's backyard.
He checks if the voters in Fred's community are statistically likely to catch a "right to pipeline" rider on state legislation. If not, great.
If they do catch it, what is Fred's hot button issue? What token can Mr. Party throw into his election platform next year that will force Fred to vote for him despite that "right to pipeline" is attached?
Maybe Fred wants green funding. If so, Party throws in some green funding talk into the election spiel.
If Fred doesn't want anything, how can Party work around him? If Fred is a "lost cause" voter, why not take the liberty to tack on other legislation that Fred doesn't like but Mr. Party does? Use mined data to determine token concessions to offer other voters and find the path of least resistance around Fred?
Worst case, maybe Fred gets fed up. (Fred's prior history of activism gives Mr. Party a reasonable idea of how likely this is to happen.) Maybe Fred starts a community campaign against "right to pipeline".
No worries for Mr. Party. If Fred has done anything unseemly (or even has the appearance of being so) at any time since surveillance was started, Mr. Right can leak it to the press and use it to crucify him. Pornography; messy divorce; friends in low places; angry rant that could be construed as antisemitic; you name it. Why go through the messy process of community activism or civil litigation when the whole issue can be buried in scandal?
In general, Mr. Party now has the means to determine the easiest, cheapest, most effective way of manipulating, working around, or getting rid of Fred.
If you don't believe that the present-generation data mining systems have the ability to do this (if given sufficient data to work with), please invite yourself into the 21st century.
And try not to do anything to upset Mr. Party.
You'll regret it.
I can understand this viewpoint. I can see where it could be abused by various parties. However, the individual in question is a bit of a special case.
Out of all the things COTO mentioned, the only two things one could possibly use against him are straight softcore adult pornography, and file-sharing. In regards to the first one, he is neither a major public figure, nor married - merely a university student... this would be a pretty weak platform to scandalize him. For the latter, as far as I'm aware, file-sharing in Canada is difficult to prosecute. Compounding this, he is relatively tech savvy, and disguises his blue-ray/music download bandwidth to look like white noise.
Far better to move in on his landlord, since the property title is in their name anyway. Individuals like the one in question are not tied down to static assets. Thus they move, tough luck man, but no real big loss either way.
Then again he lives in Canada. So this is all very fantasy-ish. Unless the FBI come knocking on a Muslim friend-of-a-friend's door - which they have...
Well Fred - some of the softcore porn you were viewing was mistakingly marked by DPI as kiddyporn, and you're now on a 'suspected sex criminal' list. The next time you wish to travel you're grilled and your luggage searched.
You also went to websites like www.ae911truth.org when you heard that 1200 architects and engineers have proven scientifically that 9/11 was an inside job and you' re also on a terrorist sympathiser list.
All these monitoring systems are not run by the government, but companies that have been contracted to run the systems, mostly israeli. How do you feel that a country based on racism and hate that treats people of all other religions as cattle that are not to be treated with respect and should be lied to has record of all your internet habits?
Israel? You mean as oppsed to Hamas Hezbollah and the various middle east despots that treat non muslims and even other muslims are filth? The government IS in charge of the systems. Private companies may have a role but overall its the BIG government that liberals want us to depend on 100% thats responsible.
Who gets to define "bad?"
That is rather obvious, isn't it?
It's a cultural difference. North of the border has a more relaxed police and government footprint. You could walk right into the Prime Minister's house without much hassle. I've seen some banks here with their vaults wide open and stacks of money visible from the counter. The first time I went to the states I thought I entered a police state. Cops everywhere! Every few minutes driving around.. another cop! Sometimes I go days or even weeks here without seeing a cop. ... and they have bullet vests and big guns in the states! Civilians walking around with guns to. So scary. Especially for someone who's never seen a working gun before!
Anyway, they can watch me all they want. Nothing to hide, Stealing is really frowned upon here... very un-Canadian even. So not worried about government in that respect. Government paid for my education and forgave my student loan when I made some poor choices. I'm glad to help the government in any way needed. Also very happy to pay taxes now to help out fellow Canadians.
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