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I read recently on opednews

I read recently on opednews that the FBI relies on sniffer dogs for the security of their HQs... and the Russians use dogs at their airports... and a sniffer dog's is $8,500 vs the $150,000 for a full scan machine. A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami, the founder of the Hare Krishna movement, said that the world is a place of "the cheaters and the cheated". He offers the solution too. Read his books. - rd

Does anyone know what the

Does anyone know what the opinions are of anyone who lost a loved one in the 9/11 attacks about the TSA? Especially those whose loved ones were never fully recovered or not found at all.

I LOVE seeing the FREEPER

I LOVE seeing the FREEPER types whining and sniveling now about how evil and awful all this stuff they cheered for when their boy Dumbya and his snarling Oil Baron cohort were putting this stuff into place.

Just a few short years ago, they would have called what they are doing now "Anti-American" and called anyone who dared to question the acts of the President unPatriotic, or worse Traitors.

To the FREEPtards, STFU, you loved this stuff under your boy Dumbya, live with it.

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AHEM! Im a freeper and I

AHEM! Im a freeper and I opposed this from the beginning. I even posted on their website and similar forums as well as my blog that eventually supporting Bush's treasonous hand over of freedoms to the government would come back to us like a boomerang and make us more like the Europeans. Eastern Europeans that is... circa 1980s.

But if Al Gore had been president instead of Bush, I have no doubt you and all the other liberals would be shirlling for more cut backs of freedoms for security and we'd be more of a police state than ever! Heck if Al Gore were president he and the Democrats would lock us down so quickly martial law would seem like anarchy. No internet, no freespeech, no guns, no civil liberties, no unregulated speech or press, no nothing and if you were caught walking around with an american flag, a bible or Koran or so much as a BB gun or squirt gun, you'd be either sent to Gitmo or shot.

How do I know this? Look what Obama and Janet Napolitano are doing...

Your fear of having your

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Your fear of having your guns taken away is unfounded.

Spying on the Internet began under President Bush.

Under George Bush, people were kicked off of airplanes for wearing t-shirts with Arabic writing on them and for praying in Arabic despite the fact that terrorists who are Muslim try to look as Western as possible.

Under Bush, reporters were arrested at the 2008 presidential convention, peaceful activist groups were spied on and apprehended without wrongdoing, and one man was arrested for expressing disapproval to Dick Cheney about the Iraq War during a public event. People who wore anti-war t-shirts were kicked out of Bush rallies and taken into custody, and people expressing anti-war sentiment found the FBI at their door to ask questions.

George Bush advocated the privatization of the prison system, which caused the prison population to blossom to its current numbers. He advocated the privatization of mercenaries to fight our wars, a group out of any legal jurisdiction when they murder civilians for no reason.

The Bush administration illegally deported hordes of immigrants

The Bush administration planted false news stories via paid experts and rewrote climate science reports to be friendlier to oil companies.

George Bush and the Republican controlled Congress gave the president the power to name anyone an enemy for any reason and to detain that person without evidence indefinitely. He then attempted to violate the Constitution by stationing American troops in the US the way they are in foreign countries.

George Bush ordered illegal spying, then had the Congress make it legal afterward.

George Bush ordered torture and then lied about doing it until he was out of office. He may currently be subject to arrest for violating international law if he travels out of the country.

George Bush put corporate cronies in high positions overseeing regulation of the very industries they worked for and in every case made Americans less safe -- our food is less safe, our water is less safe, our miners work in less safe conditions.

Please know something before you choose to comment about a topic.

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George Bush actually

George Bush actually supported looser border restrictions and amnesty for illegal aliens. He also denounced the Minute men as vigilanties. Also the reason for privatizing prisons was because its costing too much to take care of them and we no longer have the guts to execute the more violent and unrepentant ones.

We need to go back to what our founding fathers intended. Restitution for property crimes and in the middle crimes, Execution for murder rape and molestation.

Right! And if the liberals

Right! And if the liberals keep us from executing the more violent and reprobate offenders, I suggest internal or external exile. Send them to Alaska or some Hawaian island or the Nevada desert. Either that or send them to any country in the world that will take them.

Europe sounds like a good idea since they coddle these thugs constantly by being merciful and disarming law abiding citizens and treating THEM worse than criminals. China is also a good place. They can do hard labor and their sweatshops for 50@ an hour.

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I couldn't agree more! Why

I couldn't agree more! Why pay billions in taxpayer money to reward criminals with a lifetime of 3 hots and a cot and a punk and just send them away somewhere? I'd like the libs to see that as cruel and unusual punishment. I don't care if they do anyway.

Well... I for one know some

Well... I for one know some things...

Your fear of having your guns taken away is unfounded.

Then why during Katrina did FEMA agents take guns away from law abiding citizens in New Orleans suburbs who did nothing instead of going after looters gang bangers and criminals?

Spying on the Internet began under President Bush.

Much sooner than that actually under the Echelon Project which was started in the sixties and expanded under President Clinton.

Under George Bush, people were kicked off of airplanes for wearing t-shirts with Arabic writing on them and for praying in Arabic despite the fact that terrorists who are Muslim try to look as Western as possible.

That's because this is a war started by militant Islam. These people were not US citizens and belonged to a religion that advocated genocide terrorism and tyranny. There is not one free Democracy in the Muslim World. They look western as possible so they can infiltrate us.

Under Bush, reporters were arrested at the 2008 presidential convention, peaceful activist groups were spied on and apprehended without wrongdoing, and one man was arrested for expressing disapproval to Dick Cheney about the Iraq War during a public event.

BZZZZZZZ!!! Nice try! Those were protesters from code pink who disrupted speeches and tried to shut down conservative rallies. Code pink are traitors who openly support Al-qaeda and the murder of US soldiers. Had conservatives done the same thing at Obama rallies they would have had worse happen.

Consequently, no one was arrested when the minute man project was shut down by liberal thugs at Columbia U (The same liberal thugs who gave standing ovations for Ahmedinijad) And no one was to blame for closing down Islamofascism week either.

People who wore anti-war t-shirts were kicked out of Bush rallies and taken into custody

And people who war NRA t-shirts at Million Mom events had the same thing happen to them ETC ETC ETC

people expressing anti-war sentiment found the FBI at their door to ask questions

I wonder what that sentiment WAS exactly... I was just thinking of how one woman who told a news reporter that Barack Hussein Obama was a socialist who murdered unborn babies had the ATF AND the FBI at her door. But true Americans don't count the way 5th columnists do.

George Bush advocated the privatization of the prison system, which caused the prison population to blossom to its current numbers.

So no mention about criminals running loose robbing and raping as the reason? MMMM??

The Bush administration illegally deported hordes of immigrants

You got it backwards. The immigrants were here illegally taking jobs, selling dope and using tax payer funded benefits.

The Bush administration planted false news stories via paid experts and rewrote climate science reports to be friendlier to oil companies.

Keep dreaming. Global warming is a theory not a fact. Its only false in your private little world.

George Bush and the Republican controlled Congress gave the president the power to name anyone an enemy for any reason and to detain that person without evidence indefinitely. He then attempted to violate the Constitution by stationing American troops in the US the way they are in foreign countries.

Anyone who was NOT a citizen. And that stationing of American troops is the result of decades of liberal progressivism giving us a tyrannical government that becomes bigger and more massive everyday!

George Bush ordered illegal spying, then had the Congress make it legal afterward.

Wrong... that was started under Reagan and expanded under Clinton.

George Bush ordered torture and then lied about doing it until he was out of office. He may currently be subject to arrest for violating international law if he travels out of the country.

Pouring water on a jihadist is torture? As Opposed to confiscating bank accounts from the elderly and disabled?

George Bush put corporate cronies in high positions overseeing regulation of the very industries they worked for and in every case made Americans less safe -- our food is less safe, our water is less safe, our miners work in less safe conditions.

We have corporate cronies under Obama as well. Everything is less safe because we rely MORE and MORE under the government which throughout history is inefficient and backward. Only the private sector knows what its doing.

Please know something before you choose to comment about a topic.

What I was going to suggest you do...

So... can someone tell me

So... can someone tell me what a freeper is? And why does this nut job guy's avatar have a cartoon gun?

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Freepers are devotees of

Freepers are devotees of freerepublic.com, one of the looniest sites on the Internet. You can learn things on that site like that all Muslims are rapists and that Obama plans to sell blacks back into slavery.

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Freerepublic.com is a news

Freerepublic.com is a news forum that debates and discuses different news articles. Its for conservatives and libertarians.

You can learn things on that site like that all Muslims are rapists and that Obama plans to sell blacks back into slavery.

Some links to the posts would be helpful. I didn't find anything about that. At any rate, LBJ was the one who put blacks into slavery with his welfare scams. He even was quoted as saying it was bribery.

BTW, My avatar was chossen because I AM a proud supporter of the 2nd amendment which gives me the right to own firearms in defense of my life and property along with my family against criminals and a tyranical government.

freerepublic.com, one of the looniest sites on the Internet.

As opposed to say DailyKos? Huffington post? Democratic undergound?

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http://rosannapulidoisafreepe

http://rosannapulidoisafreeper.wordpress.com/

Scroll down to the March 23 update.

This was just one example of something I found via a web search. Feel free to quote anything from the sites you mentioned that's as crazy as the freeper posts quoted on this site. Note that, as this blogger points out, "these posts inspired encouragement from other Freepers, rather than derision or outrage."

Just out of curiosity, should your screen name be taken to indicate that you're an officer of the Maine Republican Party? Or are you just a supporter?

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I wish we had more latinos

I wish we had more latinos with the bravery of Rosanna! All that crap about her being a racist is BS.

should your screen name be taken to indicate that you're an officer of the Maine Republican Party? Or are you just a supporter?

Well... When I first started blogging, I was a supporter. Now Im more a libertarian. Still the screen name is good to indicate that unlike the majority of Mainers I am against communism and the policies of our former dictator John Baldacci

What? That's your arguement?

What? That's your arguement? Just because FR supported a a minuteman leader (who is also Mexican American BTW) who also commented that maybe Islam isn't that peaceful and she had an account?

This Blogger you mentioned BTW sounds unscropulous. I doubt if they are in context.

if Al Gore were president

if Al Gore were president instead of Bush we would have already lost and the USA would have been a caliphate. hell, they probably would have said it was an inside job by right wing patriot militias, CEOS and Christian bible thumpers just like they did when McVeigh (who in reality was not a militiaman or a so called Christian patriot) pulled off the OKC bombing and we would never have done anything to go after Bin Laden or the Taliban.

I get a kick out of people

I get a kick out of people arguing whether Bush or Obama introduced more Fascistic laws & procedures while they obey each and everyone of them. If everyone stopped flying, the groping and scanning would fade away as quickly as you can say, "Drop 'em!"

At least when Bush was in

At least when Bush was in charge he was doing this mainly to the enemies of America at least those who fit the profile of those who attacked us.

Now, Obama and his attorney general Napolitano is letting Muslims go off the hook and is now spending more time profiling ordinary honest patriotic Americans and branding THEM as potential terrorists simply because they are American.

Just 2 weeks ago I read that Napolitano annonced she ordered the TSA NOT to do full body scans or pat downs on Muslim women and that she did so on behalf of CAIR. So while American citizens are treated like criminals in their own land (in case you don't know folks, Obama and his liberal comrades think free people, those who own guns, who are white and who are Christians, Veterans, successful people ETC to be terrorists) Some Woman with a brick of C4 under her burka will be allowed on the plane scot free.

DOn't you feel safer already?

If we did those full body

If we did those full body scans we would show that we had devolved into a full-blown police state that denies civil liberties at a whim., we would do more to offend innocent people, and we would become even more a target of terrorists. Indeed, police states are terrorist organizations in themselves.

We protect the civil liberties, human rights, and due process that first distinguished America from the rest of the world or we become distinguishable from the nasty political regimes that we used to abhor (such as the Soviet Union).

America already is a police

America already is a police state. We take people's money and property away from them at a whim, we disarm law abiding citizens, we regulate the 1st amendment (and it WILL get worse...) we ban people from traveling in their own country, we ban people from picking careers or even working, we declare anyone who supports liberty and freedom mentally ill and declare mentally ill anyone who is a victim of socialist policies and crime, we punish victims instead of criminals, we seize property, we punish success and reward laziness with welfare, we use social security to track people and block them from living the American dream, we force our children to go to government schools which are nothing more than gulags where they are brainwashed, shot at, raped tortured, traumatized become criminals and graduate/drop out as illiterate burger flippers.

But no... We'll just blame George W Bush and the little freedom we have left for everything wrong with this country. Big government knows whats best afterall...

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We do declare people

We do declare people mentally ill when they appear to be more or less completely divorced from reality.

Not that there's anyone like that here, mind you....

And what would quantify

And what would quantify being divorced from reality? The Soviet Union, and Nazi Germany had their own criterea...

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Depends on how you mean. I

Depends on how you mean. I may meet someone who I think is a few sandwiches short of a picnic. Maybe someone who, oh, just for example, makes broad statements about socialist government declaring all freedom-loving people mentally ill, without there being any evidence that this is actually taking place. (Just labeling as "socialist" an administration that routinely bails out big corporations and that wants people to buy health coverage from private insurers rather than providing it as a public service is at odds with reality right there.)

But that sort of judgment is just my opinion, and certainly nobody is going to get locked up just on my say-so.

In order for somebody to be locked up against his or her will, there's a well-defined legal process that must be followed. (At least that's true if you're actually in the USA. For some reason it doesn't seem to apply to people picked up in somebody else's country.) Now, maybe you think this process is being abused. Then show some evidence of that. The fact that people were locked up without cause in those other regimes you mentioned isn't proof that it's happening here and now.

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hmmm... oh, just for

hmmm... oh, just for example, makes broad statements about socialist government declaring all freedom-loving people mentally ill, without there being any evidence that this is actually taking place. (Just labeling as "socialist" an administration that routinely bails out big corporations and that wants people to buy health coverage from private insurers rather than providing it as a public service is at odds with reality right there.)

Actually it IS happening. Rudy Giuliani declared a New Hampshire libertarian activist an enemy combatant and had him arrested for asking him tough questions during the youtube debates 2 years ago, our government DOES routinely deny basic liberties to people for no reason such as Sebastian peters, Melinda Lee, Nate Tseglin ETC. If they aren't locked up, they ARE kept from owning property or traveling or making basic responsible adult decitions.

And BTW, private insurance, for all its wants and needs is superior to government forcing me to pay for even more unscrupulous public insurance. A friend of mine who was homeless in Portland maine and owed $8000 in medical bills was turned down from assisitance from Mainecare, which constantly bends over backwards for welfare queens and drug addicts. His credit rating was ruined and its keeping him from getting a good job.

And yes, bailing out Big corporations IS socialism. All it did was inflate the dollar (essentially taxing the poor's savings through inflation) not to mention making us a debtor to China even more so.

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So if private insurance is

So if private insurance is so wonderful, why didn't it cover your friend? I thought that the invisible hand of the free market was just and fair. Doesn't sound like it was to him.

If it were up to me, health care would be a public service just like fire protection is now; all medically necessary services would be fully covered for everyone. That's how it is in pretty much every other country, including decidedly non-socialist ones like Singapore, India, and Taiwan.

But even if you don't agree with this, anybody who could reasonably be called a socialist would. No socialist would support making people buy health coverage from private corporations, just like nobody who would support the government nationalizing restaurants could reasonably be called a libertarian. Labeling Obama (or worse yet, Rudy Giuliani) as a socialist may not be delusional, but it's at least a massive display of ignorance.

Adam Savage says he got

Adam Savage says he got through the TSA x-ray-specs-atron with a foot-long razor blade. They must have distracted looking at his manhood.

Was listening to some tracks from the '80s over the weekend. One suggested always that airplane passengers always take a bomb on board with them because, while the chances of getting onto a plane with one bomb on it is small, the chances of getting on a plane with two bombs on it is infinitesimal.

I, like Suzie, have stopped flying.

You're not quite right. Some

You're not quite right. Some of us who won't put up with being treated like convicted felons after we buy a service from these major airlines DO care very much about the tapping of telephones, and what's becoming of the Internet.
But it's like anything else. As long as the general public gets to watch TV shows over the Net, along with reading "gossip" sites rather than hard News, no one (in a majority, that is) is going to care in general, as long as they get a free flow of low brow trash to "occupy" their "Minds".

Like so many other things in the last ten years, Americans won't know how good they had it, before we allowed the Government to steal it from us, in little tiny data packet sized morsels, one little right and privilege at a time.
But who cares, Right? Because it's time to watch your favorite celebrity dance show on broadband Internet TV.

Keep up the good fight, we may win yet, even if it is all uphill.

If you wan't someone to

If you wan't someone to blame for the pat downs blame the underwear bomber. as for the metal tube traveling at 500 miles an hour... that tube IS actually quite safe simply because there is little else up there but air and clouds.

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That's change for ya! I am

That's change for ya! I am mad as hell with this along with government spying on my internet phone bank acount ETC.

Meanwhile Obama's admin. Is planning by before Christmas to put a kill switch on the internet not to mention allow the anti 1st amendment FCC to regulate the internet the way it does with TV in order to limit our choices our exposure to information and squelch free speech.

Don't you feel safer and scure already?!

I call it change for the

I call it change for the worse. If anything we need to change BACK to what our founding fathers intended and scrap socialism before we end up like Eastern Europe.

Bunch a load of bullcrap you

Bunch a load of bullcrap you dumbass. Despite the fact that everbody doesn't like to go through a full body scan at the airport the majority of travelers agree that its for the best for everbody's safety. And what about the Bush administration's wiretapping program, it was controversial back then but its the best for everyone's safety to let the FBI hear phone conversations from domestic terrorists. So I don't give a crap about going through a full body scan at an airport. These whiny people who don't want to have a full body scan and rather take their clothes off in front of the TSA need to suck it up and deal with it. Its for everyone's safety on a plane.

I'm not quite sure what

I'm not quite sure what you're smoking, but I recommend you don't let anyone catch you with it.

I have lived through an era of terrorism without having some perv sexually assault me every time I go on a plane - I lived in London during the time of the IRA terrorist actions.

You seem blind to the fact that you now (a) feel LESS safe than 9/11 and (b) certainly have less and less rights. You walked into a police state like sheep (a bit like CCTV-rich UK) - entertaining for a nation which proclaims itself the defender of democracy.

There is plenty of evidence that suggests TSA measures at the airport are at best theater - they provide a VERY low return on investment towards safety, but someone has to make a profit, right?

What we now need is a journalist unearthing perv convictions in *ONE* TSA agent. Given the volume that is statistically almost a certainty. It will be entertaining to watch when it happens, especially the TSA spin will be worth a laugh.

Wow what kool-aid are you

Wow what kool-aid are you drinking??
Do you have any evidence to back up your claims?

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Yes I recommend you look up

Yes I recommend you look up and google FCC internet lines regulate before christmas as well as Net neutrality which WILL hamper free speech. Also look up kill switch Obama and internet, Communications Act of 1934, surrender of internet to foregin powers, and department of information freerepublic.

Just a taste of the Obama police state coming in.

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TSA Turkey with Little Suzie

TSA Turkey with Little Suzie Newsykins, happy travels! Be sure to post your airport security probing stories here.

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