Oh my Gawd! Haven't laughed this much since the last Dogboy, I know, I know, its that 'violins in cartoons' that everyone's been complaining about! ;-) Maybe its the older generations that were brought up on bugs bunny and the road runner that really appreciate this, but don't we all love it when the looney bad guy "gets" it in the end? Thanks Mark, it was wonderful!
except a lot of people arguing against "socialized" healthcare don't think that the military, police, or medicare are done as good as they could be done if they were in the private sector. You can debate peons who argue this type of stance, but your not going to convince anyone by avoiding to address the deep political philosophy points reasonable folk are basing their decisions on.
The same corporate c---suckers who love government socialist protections for patents/copyrights/corporate person hate the idea that people might collude to get better wages/health care.
How about Dogboy and Mr. Dan going to Canada, getting sick and having to be treated by "Socialized Medicine"... We he refuse? Will he feel forever tainted? Will he need a brain transplant?
"Single-payer Marine Corps" as opposed to "Marine Corps paid for by individuals under a feudaleque system", ultimately responsible to those who pay them rather than the country as a whole. Kinda like having personal Blackwaters.
Anonymous - So, going by your definition of socialism - the government should not be making laws against same - sex marriages (dictates how one should live) or abortion (dictates about a woman's private decision) - or is it just socalist when a person can't afford it???
The military has always been made up of a mixture of individuals - just like everything else. There are god fearing people (not sure what that term even means anymore) who are in it for the idea of serving their country; there are/were people in it for the glory & the power; there are/were people who just enjoy being in a group of people who can use guns...in other words it is made of people. They go where the President tells them and they do what their commanders say to do. Police are the same way except they don't have the POTUS in charge...there are good cops and their are bad cops. I will admit that even though Nixon "was a crook" he did many good things. I think if he hadn't been paranoid he might have been a darn good President!
As for the founding fathers, they were mostly diests who believed in GOD but not necessarily Jesus as his son. Since most of them are dead now, we really don't know what they thought about the 2nd amendment. I am sure they didn't look into the future and say you know, someday these people are going to need guns to wage wars against other countries...especially when they were using guns to kill their food....
Mark, loved Dogboy & Mr. Dan!!! Keep up the good work
Okay, first of all, its no socialist to have a taxpayer funded police force and military ETC. IT IS socialist when the government sector dictates everything about how you are to live.
BTW, up until Vietnam, the government didn't have so much control over the military which at that time was made up of God fearing individuals who joined for the purpose of giving back to this nation. Then we started having rules of engagement which gave the enemy the advantage over us until Nixon got rid of it in Linebacker. It didn't put a stop to attrocities like Mai Lai ETC. Not to mention attrocities commited by the NVA BTW.
The founding fathers did not intend for us to fully depend on the military or the police either. That is one reason we have the 2nd amendment. Thomas Jefferson even pointed out that a government that spent on huge militaries would be disaserous.
Bottom line: Its not socialism for government to have certain sensible regulations laws and services that are neccesary, but it becomes socialism where we get to the point where we cant even breathe, go outside or eat the foods we like without a politician telling us what to do.
Anyways I kinda like the Dogboy Mr Dan show. Keep it up And I will see you again to continue yours and Dog boys education in America's original founding tradition.
"a government that spent on huge militaries would be disaserous"
I'm confused, wouldn't the US military fall under such pretenses?
Also, don't forget militia's during the founding father's days were far more effective options as substitute fighting forces. Imagine trying to fulfull current military agendas overseas with such forces. How would they even get there? Fishing boats?
Bottom line: I agree with all your points. Still, don't worry so much about ideological lines. We're baffled up here in Canada over the socialism scare tactics!
Being a Canadian, I "endorse" socialized medicine for the sole reason that it's quantifiably more efficient than using private insurers:
lawyering fees are but a trace of their US counterparts
no opportunities exist for insurers to mark up costs (the middleman in the US can mark up prices by enormous margins)
doctors have guarantees of getting paid; patients have guarantees of getting treatment
ironically, longer wait times for services tend to winnow out inefficiencies in the system. Certain health problems (such as a stone in my salivary duct) resolve themselves "while you wait", eliminating the need to run the full gamut of diagnostic tests.
the middle-lower-income segment of the population have a fighting chance to maintain their health and thereby remain productive. (A labourer has no qualms, say, about whether he can afford to get a sharp pain in his leg checked. The problem is treated and his career is potentially saved.)
All of these factors increase the "bang for the buck" and lessen confusion. It's not a perfect system by any means, but eliminating the parasitic insurance/legal elements alone justifies its use.
This being said, the creeping spectre of socialism (a.k.a. communitarianism, a.k.a. ad extremum fascism) is not something to be ignored or taken lightly. The UK is a prime example, where the socialism has now ventured into dark areas such as citywide networks of tens of thousands of CCTV cameras (including recently: cameras pointed at doors in apartment buildings), social services mandates to remove children from parents' custody in cases where parents do not enroll them in 'state sanctioned' schools or subject them to 'state sanctioned' shots/vaccinations (regardless of safety concerns), and oppressive 'living taxes' for carbon emissions that, if applied to their full stature, would reduce quality of life to third-world standards. (If you don't believe me, read the long-term mandates. They'll shock you.)
An increasing number of people have begun to notice that the oppressive surveillance, control, political correctness, and centralization of power in the UK is starting to reek more than a little bit of the good ol' USSR. Overreaching socialism is a very real problem and only a fool would think that "it can't happen here".
Remember, the fruits of US socialism have so far yielded an out-of-control Pentagon--waging war against nations far and wide without any regard to the cost--as well as socialized banking, which will likely be the death blow to the US dollar.
What Mr. Dan asks is that you do not disregard his concerns as simple right-wing demagoguery. Unfortunately, Fabian-style socialism has led the Dogboys elsewhere in the world incrementally closer to a surveyed, 'planned' society that (trust me) you wouldn't want to live in.
I have no problem with CCTV. In fact I like the idea and wish it would be applied more in Canadian cities. I have nothing to hide so I do not fear surveillance. Mind you, I wish it had been in place the number of times I had my property vandalized, or stolen.
the canadian government is also looking at xray machines at airports which can see everything and i mean everything the polls say that 95% of canadians prefered this method to a pat down but i think they were not told what was happening when they entered the room.
So, when the government spends money on vodka-licking naked guys it isn't socialism? They got their pay from the government. It's all socialism. Their nominally working for a private company makes it Fascism/National Socialism. Public schools are socialist too. People in government coming together for the common good is socialism if compliance is enforced at the barrel of a gun and paid for with money stolen through taxes. Sure, some people benefit from socialism, just like some people benefited from slavery. The problem with both is they each depend on coercion to work.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Hmmm... Doesn't say anything about the government spending money on private companies with or without naked guys.
Bingo. You hit the nail on the head - what *is* socialism. I have yet to hear anything said by the tinfoil hat crowd that even hints they know what they are talking about.
My intuition is that all the insanity is coming out of people who are stuck in a loose-loose mind set.
You cannot have a discourse between logic and self-proclaimed truths which are entirely based on emotions and self denial.
Mr. Dan should be taken to a hospital and have insurance delayed then denied. Or you could have him lose his job, then health insurance delays and denies the claim as the prostate cancer grows large. then he looses his home to pay for treatments.
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How about an episode about
How about an episode about hate speech laws? I haven't heard anything about that lately. Its something we need in this country too to stop hatred
So who will decide what
So who will decide what hatred is? Ever heard of the first amendment.
God why do you hate freedom so much! First the 2nd now the others!
Oh my Gawd! Haven't laughed
Oh my Gawd! Haven't laughed this much since the last Dogboy, I know, I know, its that 'violins in cartoons' that everyone's been complaining about! ;-) Maybe its the older generations that were brought up on bugs bunny and the road runner that really appreciate this, but don't we all love it when the looney bad guy "gets" it in the end? Thanks Mark, it was wonderful!
except a lot of people
except a lot of people arguing against "socialized" healthcare don't think that the military, police, or medicare are done as good as they could be done if they were in the private sector. You can debate peons who argue this type of stance, but your not going to convince anyone by avoiding to address the deep political philosophy points reasonable folk are basing their decisions on.
The same corporate
The same corporate c---suckers who love government socialist protections for patents/copyrights/corporate person hate the idea that people might collude to get better wages/health care.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO S-----T!
How about Dogboy and Mr. Dan
How about Dogboy and Mr. Dan going to Canada, getting sick and having to be treated by "Socialized Medicine"... We he refuse? Will he feel forever tainted? Will he need a brain transplant?
This is great !!! At the
This is great !!! At the risk of sounding "old" the sound track sounds similar to Firesign Theatre. More Dogboy and Mr. Dan.
"Single-payer Marine
"Single-payer Marine Corps?"
I love the contrast between the two characters' voices. Another 'toon I'll be replaying many times as I visit here.
"Single-payer Marine Corps"
"Single-payer Marine Corps" as opposed to "Marine Corps paid for by individuals under a feudaleque system", ultimately responsible to those who pay them rather than the country as a whole. Kinda like having personal Blackwaters.
That's the way I see it.
That's the way I see it. What's wrong with this country and 'labels'?
great... but smells a bit
great... but smells a bit socialist :D
Anonymous - So, going by
Anonymous - So, going by your definition of socialism - the government should not be making laws against same - sex marriages (dictates how one should live) or abortion (dictates about a woman's private decision) - or is it just socalist when a person can't afford it???
The military has always been made up of a mixture of individuals - just like everything else. There are god fearing people (not sure what that term even means anymore) who are in it for the idea of serving their country; there are/were people in it for the glory & the power; there are/were people who just enjoy being in a group of people who can use guns...in other words it is made of people. They go where the President tells them and they do what their commanders say to do. Police are the same way except they don't have the POTUS in charge...there are good cops and their are bad cops. I will admit that even though Nixon "was a crook" he did many good things. I think if he hadn't been paranoid he might have been a darn good President!
As for the founding fathers, they were mostly diests who believed in GOD but not necessarily Jesus as his son. Since most of them are dead now, we really don't know what they thought about the 2nd amendment. I am sure they didn't look into the future and say you know, someday these people are going to need guns to wage wars against other countries...especially when they were using guns to kill their food....
Mark, loved Dogboy & Mr. Dan!!! Keep up the good work
Glenna Jones-Kachtik
gjkbear822@yahoo.com
Should have said: Massive
Should have said:
Massive Corn Subsidies? Socialist!
Okay, first of all, its no
Okay, first of all, its no socialist to have a taxpayer funded police force and military ETC. IT IS socialist when the government sector dictates everything about how you are to live.
BTW, up until Vietnam, the government didn't have so much control over the military which at that time was made up of God fearing individuals who joined for the purpose of giving back to this nation. Then we started having rules of engagement which gave the enemy the advantage over us until Nixon got rid of it in Linebacker. It didn't put a stop to attrocities like Mai Lai ETC. Not to mention attrocities commited by the NVA BTW.
The founding fathers did not intend for us to fully depend on the military or the police either. That is one reason we have the 2nd amendment. Thomas Jefferson even pointed out that a government that spent on huge militaries would be disaserous.
Bottom line: Its not socialism for government to have certain sensible regulations laws and services that are neccesary, but it becomes socialism where we get to the point where we cant even breathe, go outside or eat the foods we like without a politician telling us what to do.
Anyways I kinda like the Dogboy Mr Dan show. Keep it up And I will see you again to continue yours and Dog boys education in America's original founding tradition.
"a government that spent on
"a government that spent on huge militaries would be disaserous"
I'm confused, wouldn't the US military fall under such pretenses?
Also, don't forget militia's during the founding father's days were far more effective options as substitute fighting forces. Imagine trying to fulfull current military agendas overseas with such forces. How would they even get there? Fishing boats?
Bottom line: I agree with all your points. Still, don't worry so much about ideological lines. We're baffled up here in Canada over the socialism scare tactics!
Well put. Being a Canadian,
Well put.
Being a Canadian, I "endorse" socialized medicine for the sole reason that it's quantifiably more efficient than using private insurers:
All of these factors increase the "bang for the buck" and lessen confusion. It's not a perfect system by any means, but eliminating the parasitic insurance/legal elements alone justifies its use.
This being said, the creeping spectre of socialism (a.k.a. communitarianism, a.k.a. ad extremum fascism) is not something to be ignored or taken lightly. The UK is a prime example, where the socialism has now ventured into dark areas such as citywide networks of tens of thousands of CCTV cameras (including recently: cameras pointed at doors in apartment buildings), social services mandates to remove children from parents' custody in cases where parents do not enroll them in 'state sanctioned' schools or subject them to 'state sanctioned' shots/vaccinations (regardless of safety concerns), and oppressive 'living taxes' for carbon emissions that, if applied to their full stature, would reduce quality of life to third-world standards. (If you don't believe me, read the long-term mandates. They'll shock you.)
An increasing number of people have begun to notice that the oppressive surveillance, control, political correctness, and centralization of power in the UK is starting to reek more than a little bit of the good ol' USSR. Overreaching socialism is a very real problem and only a fool would think that "it can't happen here".
Remember, the fruits of US socialism have so far yielded an out-of-control Pentagon--waging war against nations far and wide without any regard to the cost--as well as socialized banking, which will likely be the death blow to the US dollar.
What Mr. Dan asks is that you do not disregard his concerns as simple right-wing demagoguery. Unfortunately, Fabian-style socialism has led the Dogboys elsewhere in the world incrementally closer to a surveyed, 'planned' society that (trust me) you wouldn't want to live in.
I have no problem with CCTV.
I have no problem with CCTV. In fact I like the idea and wish it would be applied more in Canadian cities. I have nothing to hide so I do not fear surveillance. Mind you, I wish it had been in place the number of times I had my property vandalized, or stolen.
By and by, nobody
By and by, nobody comfortable with constant surveillance has ever done anything worth monitoring anyway.
Enjoy your soaps.
the canadian government is
the canadian government is also looking at xray machines at airports which can see everything and i mean everything the polls say that 95% of canadians prefered this method to a pat down but i think they were not told what was happening when they entered the room.
So, when the government
So, when the government spends money on vodka-licking naked guys it isn't socialism? They got their pay from the government. It's all socialism. Their nominally working for a private company makes it Fascism/National Socialism. Public schools are socialist too. People in government coming together for the common good is socialism if compliance is enforced at the barrel of a gun and paid for with money stolen through taxes. Sure, some people benefit from socialism, just like some people benefited from slavery. The problem with both is they each depend on coercion to work.
http://www.merriam-webster.co
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
Hmmm... Doesn't say anything about the government spending money on private companies with or without naked guys.
So no.
re: definition of
re: definition of socialism
Bingo. You hit the nail on the head - what *is* socialism. I have yet to hear anything said by the tinfoil hat crowd that even hints they know what they are talking about.
My intuition is that all the insanity is coming out of people who are stuck in a loose-loose mind set.
You cannot have a discourse between logic and self-proclaimed truths which are entirely based on emotions and self denial.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy
-- Know your adversary!
Mr. Dan should be taken to a
Mr. Dan should be taken to a hospital and have insurance delayed then denied. Or you could have him lose his job, then health insurance delays and denies the claim as the prostate cancer grows large. then he looses his home to pay for treatments.
Thank you. Wonderful as
Thank you. Wonderful as usual
Dogboy & Mr. Dan are back in
Dogboy & Mr. Dan are back in "Balms Away!" Let me know what you think should happen next to Mr. Dan.
-MF
Yeah how about an episode
Yeah how about an episode about hate speech laws?
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